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Texas_Two_Stepp's avatar
Sep 27, 2016

Flat spots on front axle tires

Since I bought my 2013 Excel I have been having problems with flat spots on the tires on the front axle. These areas are about 10” apart with one usually being worse than the others, and worse on the curb side. I have bought 3 new tires over the past two years because of this. The tires are 17.5 Michelin load J and are expensive. The undercarriage, calipers etc. are Dexter. Total trailer weight 15.5k with app. 6k on each axle. I have recently learned that the problem may be related to the braking rotational force exerted from the rear axle thru the equalizer bar causing a slight lifting force on the front axle and causing those front tires to skid. I think the cause of this may be from two things: being slightly nose high (I do this to get about 7” clearance above the bed rails) would cause a little more weight on the rear wheels when braking and being heavy on the drivers side (2 slides, 4 batteries and refer. vs 1 slide on curb side). I set my brakes by the prescribed procedure and run air pressure per tire charts.
I do not know how to solve this problem except buying new tires. I do have 3-3 position spring hangers(?) on each side which are all set in the highest position. I have been thinking about lowering the front 2 hangers on each side to the middle position but don’t know how that will effect things.
Your input will be appreciated.
  • rhagfo's avatar
    rhagfo
    Explorer III
    Texas Two Steppers wrote:
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    I do not know how to solve this problem except buying new tires. I do have 3-3 position spring hangers(?) on each side which are all set in the highest position. I have been thinking about lowering the front 2 hangers on each side to the middle position but don’t know how that will effect things.
    Your input will be appreciated.


    I assume the by "the highest position" you mean the position the has the 5er as high as possible at the axles. If by "the highest position" you mean the set of holes nearest the frame, then why not move to the holes furthest from the frame.

    Unless you are near 13'-6" at your highest point I would be working to get the 5er as level as possible.

  • If you have the adjustment holes in shackles then why not 'level' 5th wheel and eliminate the nose-high condition :H

    On my 5th wheel each hole resulted in 2" height difference.


    As suggested follower car to watch what action is going on when braking.

    Find it hard to imagine at 15K you can actually 'lock up' trailer brakes sufficiently to cause 'flat spotting' --------that takes some heavy skidding

    Where do you park rig....do you have to 'maneuver' (jack rig in)?
  • I would have a vehicle follow me with a driver and a spotter to observe the lock-up, wheel hop, or suspension dynamics.
    You should have a copilot for communication with second vehicle.
  • Are you locking up the tires when braking but not realizing it ? My trailer brakes become more sensitive as they heat up.