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NorthwestBound's avatar
May 07, 2016

Fly in the ointment

So, not gonna rehash the whole store, just that ive been trying to get into a 5ver with a small budget but cant get past the hitch.

Needless to say, the hitch installation was never completed because i could not find a way to install the spacers due to the location of the rail holes in a crossmember.

So i took the truck to a local expert who put it up on a lift and inspected the install. Thats where the concern turned from spacers to frame brackets.

Once on the lift, we could see that the brackets installed by the previous owner was an accident waiting to happen.

The previous owner had welded on the universal brackets to the frame, and did a rather fair job on the front brackets. However, once on the lift, we could see that he had cut the rear brackets short and then welded them to the top of the frame. Holy ****!!!! Frome looking from the outside it appeared to be a full bracket welded onto the inside of the frame.

So, heres what im thinking. First, the installed hitch is too far forward. Reese says 28 5/16 from the rear and mine is at almost 33. I may order the reese brackets 50040, bolt them in place and relocate the position of the rails to a more centered location and leave the welded brackets on the frame.

So 4 questions:
Will the current location of the hitch be a big problem?

Has anyone used the 50040 bracket and do you have a pic of it installed?

Can you grind off these brackets without weakening the frame if they are in the way of installing bracket 50040?

What other options may i have?

Im running real low on funds for this project so i could use some budget minded advice. Thanks in advance.

16 Replies

  • I installed similar Curt brand brackets on my 04 Dodge by myself. When properly positioned two bolts go through the hat section bed brace and need spacers inside to keep it from collapsing. At first sight with limited access this looks to be impossible. I ended up positioning the spacers at an angle with a loop of mason's twine. Then I used a pointed pry bar to snap the spacers in place. First one took 45 minutes to figure it out, second took 2 minutes to install. I was pretty irritated that they offered no guidance in the instructions to install the spacers. 120 minute install time was closer to 6 hours for me. If I needed it done over again I would find a lift or pay for it.
  • Thanks guys. Aftet the initial anxiety attack subsided I ordered the Reese 50040 kit without the rails. This should relocate the hitch to the proper location and give me a little more peace of mind. Etrailer had it for $260 but got it for $197 and free shipping on Jet.

  • I wouldn't call the installation "unsafe" just yet. It apparently served the original owner just fine. Very few would go to the trouble of using full penetration welds for attachments like this. A one-side fillet weld can be plenty strong enough. As far as weakening the frame by grinding it off? No problem. If the frame was weakened it happened when the weld was made. Grinding it off will have no affect on the strength remaining.

    I agree with the others. Just have your welder do what's necessary to get the new brackets where they need to be.
  • You can grind off the old brackets,M down to the parent material, just don't grind into the original frame material.
  • Have your "local expert" cut the old brackets off and do a proper install...otherwise you are in the same position of making it unsafe to others.
  • Pic of the rear bracket welded on top of the frame, and ONLY welded on the outside of the bracket.

    This is just ludicrous!!! Someone should be flogged for putting other drivers at risk by towing "anything" with this embarrasingly unsafe installation.