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CWSWine
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Feb 04, 2016

Front Living Rooms

We are looking the Keystone Montana Front Living Room model 3711FL. It has a DRY pin weight of 2790 lbs at 13200 and CC of 3200lbs. I know for pass scale weights I add under 1500 lbs of cargo. I have F350 diesel SRW with payload of 3744.

If they pin weight percentage stays at or under 22 percent would give me a pin weight of 3234 which still gives me some margin. My question is that seems like a front living room would be lighter pin since there isn't much added weight in to the living room and also not much storage? Also, the basement in the front is the smallest I have seen on any 5er being less 30" wide so not much cargo there.

Does anyone has any input? Upgrading the truck isn't a options since a Crew Cab won't fit in my garage.
  • You find that with most FL's. Double slides, 2 couches/beds, 2 recliners, fridge is probably forward of axle etc.
  • I have not seen either of those trailers, but one possibility is where they put the axles. If you move the axles forward then more weight will rest on the axles and less on the pin, and moving the axles toward the rear will make it more pin heavy.
  • Please post your scaled weights. I would be interested in knowing how the web site compares to real scaled numbers.
  • I noticed the same thing and the dealer explained that the residential refrigerator came with extra battery and the inventor and accounted for most the weight but he could explain why so much of it went toward pin weight.
    There are some other difference also. Tank sizes are different between the two models when you check the website. The dealer said that was error on the website but who knows.
    Also, on the one we are looking at the front cap has window and the TV goes up and down and the ones in most pictures show sold cap and no window.
    I will know next week since I bought it and we will hit the scales on the way home.

    This is the one with the front window and understand they are kinda rare... Front Window
  • I would check further into that pin weight for this reason. I have also been looking at those. And looking at the Keystone/Montana new specs, it list the 3711FL pin weight at 2,790, but the 3710FL at only 2,530. As I understand it, the only difference is the 3711FL has the residential fridge where the 3710FL has the standard RV fridge. And further the weight difference between the two refrigerators is negligible. So why the extra 260#? The 3711FL has an inverter for the refrigerator and possibly an extra battery. But still ?????

    And to further cloud the issue, the 2015 specs for the 3711FL list the pin weight as 2,565, only 35# heavier than the 3710FL. Why is the 2016 3711FL listed 235# heavier than the 2015 3711FL? The 2016 3710FL is listed as the same pin weight as the 2015 3710FL. Why did the 3711FL gain weight when the 3710FL did not?

    Something just doesn't seem right about that 2,790 number. You may have more spare than it appears.
  • I have a rushmore 15500 tow it with my 2500hd . not as much pin weight as my older sierra I had.
  • Have you weighed the truck ready to camp, to know your rear axle weight. What are your max tire ratings? I am thinking your RAWR is 7,280. If you stay fairly close to your payload rating, and under your RAWR, you should be fine.

    The rear under bed storage, and rear wardroom, should keep pin wt at similar percentage.

    Jerry