Gawd the Heartland owners can get excited and boarder on insane if anyone does not bow to them. Heartland is not a bad company-- they are no better or worse than other reputable manufacturers. Again the Landmark is an optioned up Big Horn and are simply a mid-level trailer. I provided some specifics as to why I choose a Redwood and not a Landmark and now I get attacked for not being factual. I find that offensive and humorous at the same time. BTY I can find as many people who like Redwood, Montana, Cedar Creek, DRV and etc as I can who like Heartland. And I can find folks who don't like them as well. So what does it all mean-- don't be fooled and do your own investigation and really look with a critical eye at the RV shows or dealers.