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Jul 13, 2017

How are you locking your fifth wheel puck hitch to the bed?

I have a new Curt Q 25 hitch to fit my Ford puck system. I want to replace the wire coupler retainers with locks.

I'm sure others have done this and wondering which locking device you chose.

By the way, the hitch I replaced was a B and W, and I have to say that the Curt Q is one very nice replacement. Well designed and well made. And the puck system is the way to go...so much easier!

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Rangerman40 wrote:
I don't lock mine...... it weighs 278lbs.


How many separate pcs to make that 278#?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"107","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-15T10:12:44.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-15T10:12:44.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":926},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2667310/message:2667331","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"142","rawBody":"
Rangerman40 wrote:
I don't lock mine...... it weighs 278lbs.


How many separate pcs to make that 278#?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2667331_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:308963":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:308963","uid":308963,"login":"Rangerman40","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-10-08T20:41:12.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:308963"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667330":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2667330","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2667330":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:308963"},"id":"message:2667330","revisionNum":1,"uid":2667330,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2667310"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2667310"},"subject":"Re: How are you locking your fifth wheel puck hitch to the bed?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667330"},"body":"I don't lock mine...... it weighs 278lbs.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"41","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-14T19:34:46.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-14T19:34:46.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":927},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2667310/message:2667330","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"41","rawBody":"I don't lock mine...... it weighs 278lbs.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2667330_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667329":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2667329","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2667329":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:321363"},"id":"message:2667329","revisionNum":1,"uid":2667329,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2667310"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2667310"},"subject":"Re: How are you locking your fifth wheel puck hitch to the bed?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667329"},"body":"
Gib3633 wrote:
I agree that Ram has the largest footprint and congratulate them for recognizing that. With the old cross rail system the truck box had a cross member support in the way of installing the hitch that would allow the king pin to be 2 inches ahead of the center of the rear axle. I haven't looked but I would think that would be the reason for the large spread. Ford has the smallest footprint but I see nothing wrong with it.
The gentleman I spoke with at B&W stated he wouldn't be concerned about pulling 20,000 lbs. on their 20,000 lb. hitch nor I but I already have a 20,000 hitch. I would think the reason B&W hasn't built the heavier hitch for GM yet is because they were a couple of years or so behind RAM & FORD to offer the puck system. Also possibly because GM rated their truck lower and their reason they stated was the biggest part of their customer base was hauling horse trailers and RVs around the 20,000 lb. mark.
This is way off OP's question so to that I don't lock mine in . I have a tonneau cover to hide it when not towing


B&W specifically said they rate their hitch to the lowest component. What does that tell you? By the way B&W is VERY conservative in their ratings with a huge factor built in.

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Gib3633 wrote:
I agree that Ram has the largest footprint and congratulate them for recognizing that. With the old cross rail system the truck box had a cross member support in the way of installing the hitch that would allow the king pin to be 2 inches ahead of the center of the rear axle. I haven't looked but I would think that would be the reason for the large spread. Ford has the smallest footprint but I see nothing wrong with it.
The gentleman I spoke with at B&W stated he wouldn't be concerned about pulling 20,000 lbs. on their 20,000 lb. hitch nor I but I already have a 20,000 hitch. I would think the reason B&W hasn't built the heavier hitch for GM yet is because they were a couple of years or so behind RAM & FORD to offer the puck system. Also possibly because GM rated their truck lower and their reason they stated was the biggest part of their customer base was hauling horse trailers and RVs around the 20,000 lb. mark.
This is way off OP's question so to that I don't lock mine in . I have a tonneau cover to hide it when not towing


B&W specifically said they rate their hitch to the lowest component. What does that tell you? By the way B&W is VERY conservative in their ratings with a huge factor built in.

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With the old cross rail system the truck box had a cross member support in the way of installing the hitch that would allow the king pin to be 2 inches ahead of the center of the rear axle. I haven't looked but I would think that would be the reason for the large spread. Ford has the smallest footprint but I see nothing wrong with it.
The gentleman I spoke with at B&W stated he wouldn't be concerned about pulling 20,000 lbs. on their 20,000 lb. hitch nor I but I already have a 20,000 hitch. I would think the reason B&W hasn't built the heavier hitch for GM yet is because they were a couple of years or so behind RAM & FORD to offer the puck system. Also possibly because GM rated their truck lower and their reason they stated was the biggest part of their customer base was hauling horse trailers and RVs around the 20,000 lb. mark.
This is way off OP's question so to that I don't lock mine in . I have a tonneau cover to hide it when not towing","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-14T08:43:59.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-14T08:43:59.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":910},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2667310/message:2667327","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1063","rawBody":"I agree that Ram has the largest footprint and congratulate them for recognizing that. With the old cross rail system the truck box had a cross member support in the way of installing the hitch that would allow the king pin to be 2 inches ahead of the center of the rear axle. I haven't looked but I would think that would be the reason for the large spread. Ford has the smallest footprint but I see nothing wrong with it.
The gentleman I spoke with at B&W stated he wouldn't be concerned about pulling 20,000 lbs. on their 20,000 lb. hitch nor I but I already have a 20,000 hitch. I would think the reason B&W hasn't built the heavier hitch for GM yet is because they were a couple of years or so behind RAM & FORD to offer the puck system. Also possibly because GM rated their truck lower and their reason they stated was the biggest part of their customer base was hauling horse trailers and RVs around the 20,000 lb. mark.
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
This is how I lock my US Made B&W 25K puck hitch to my bed. Opposing corners on the base, two on the head to base and one securing the latching handle.



I suppose a small padlock would fit where the pin is.



The pics also show the wider base/bigger footprint Ram uses for its puck setup enabling the better design of the B&W. Ford has the smaller footprint, not sure about the GM haven't seen one of those, maybe making it a little harder to make a high rated hitch in the smaller package.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"207","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-14T04:18:09.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-14T04:18:09.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":900},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2667310/message:2667326","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"682","rawBody":"
Cummins12V98 wrote:
This is how I lock my US Made B&W 25K puck hitch to my bed. Opposing corners on the base, two on the head to base and one securing the latching handle.



I suppose a small padlock would fit where the pin is.



The pics also show the wider base/bigger footprint Ram uses for its puck setup enabling the better design of the B&W. Ford has the smaller footprint, not sure about the GM haven't seen one of those, maybe making it a little harder to make a high rated hitch in the smaller package.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2667326_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:412":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:412","uid":412,"login":"sayoung","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-09-17T11:59:14.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:412"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667325":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2667325","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2667325":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:412"},"id":"message:2667325","revisionNum":1,"uid":2667325,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2667310"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2667310"},"subject":"Re: How are you locking your fifth wheel puck hitch to the bed?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667325"},"body":"As lazy as thieves are they aren't taking no hitch as heavy as those. The whole truck is just too easy.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"104","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-13T20:21:02.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-13T20:21:02.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":921},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2667310/message:2667325","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"104","rawBody":"As lazy as thieves are they aren't taking no hitch as heavy as those. The whole truck is just too easy.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2667325_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667324":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2667324","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2667324":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:321363"},"id":"message:2667324","revisionNum":1,"uid":2667324,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2667310"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2667310"},"subject":"Re: How are you locking your fifth wheel puck hitch to the bed?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667324"},"body":"\"When I compare the Q25 to the B&W the Q25 is more robust in head area\"

Completely disagree. 1\" machined jaws, solid simple latching system on the B&W. Curt head's pivot point is several inches below the kingpin allowing for fore and aft movement causing chucking for some, B&W's pivot point same elevation as king pin. Curt's jaws are at least 1/2 as thick. Curt has a flimsy locking latching system and is not always easy to unhitch as reported by my self and many Curt owners. Only two bolts holding the head to base with Curt, there are 4 bolts each side with the B&W.

Also to be honest the base on the Curt is VERY flimsy looking in comparison.

But if $ are more important buy the Curt. Etrailer Q24 $755 and B&W RVK3600 $1.205. So there \"should\" be a considerable difference in quality.

Buy what you want but compare side by side first.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"211","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-13T18:26:14.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-13T18:26:14.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":910},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2667310/message:2667324","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"914","rawBody":"\"When I compare the Q25 to the B&W the Q25 is more robust in head area\"

Completely disagree. 1\" machined jaws, solid simple latching system on the B&W. Curt head's pivot point is several inches below the kingpin allowing for fore and aft movement causing chucking for some, B&W's pivot point same elevation as king pin. Curt's jaws are at least 1/2 as thick. Curt has a flimsy locking latching system and is not always easy to unhitch as reported by my self and many Curt owners. Only two bolts holding the head to base with Curt, there are 4 bolts each side with the B&W.

Also to be honest the base on the Curt is VERY flimsy looking in comparison.

But if $ are more important buy the Curt. Etrailer Q24 $755 and B&W RVK3600 $1.205. So there \"should\" be a considerable difference in quality.

Buy what you want but compare side by side first.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2667324_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667323":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2667323","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2667323":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:321363"},"id":"message:2667323","revisionNum":1,"uid":2667323,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2667310"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2667310"},"subject":"Re: How are you locking your fifth wheel puck hitch to the bed?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667323"},"body":"
Gib3633 wrote:
Cummins
The difference is B&W do not make at this time a 24,000 lb. puck system hitch for GM. I thought you would know that since you are a RAM man.
The other difference is I have a 20,000 Reece and if I can't get what I would like I can wait. How do I know this?? because I called the factory and talked to the gentleman who answered the phone. The other comment about the contact surface to the king pin was my own observation. Maybe you should have a look.
If you would reread my comment you would see that I also preferred a B&W and explained why. I WANTED THE SAME HITCH YOU HAVE AND THEY DO NOT MAKE IT FOR GM.


I did read what you said! I do understand what B&W rates their hitches at.

I said the hitches are basically the same and I said they \"rate to the weakest link\". I also said I would take the 20K B&W any day over any other hitch made for the Ford or GM.

I have pointed out the small jaws on the Curt for years. Also it's MADE In Chins, that comment got lots of denials for a long time but I think the fact has finally settled in. Other Curt towing items are US Made and of high quality.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"207","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-13T18:15:09.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-13T18:15:09.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":905},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2667310/message:2667323","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1214","rawBody":"
Gib3633 wrote:
Cummins
The difference is B&W do not make at this time a 24,000 lb. puck system hitch for GM. I thought you would know that since you are a RAM man.
The other difference is I have a 20,000 Reece and if I can't get what I would like I can wait. How do I know this?? because I called the factory and talked to the gentleman who answered the phone. The other comment about the contact surface to the king pin was my own observation. Maybe you should have a look.
If you would reread my comment you would see that I also preferred a B&W and explained why. I WANTED THE SAME HITCH YOU HAVE AND THEY DO NOT MAKE IT FOR GM.


I did read what you said! I do understand what B&W rates their hitches at.

I said the hitches are basically the same and I said they \"rate to the weakest link\". I also said I would take the 20K B&W any day over any other hitch made for the Ford or GM.

I have pointed out the small jaws on the Curt for years. Also it's MADE In Chins, that comment got lots of denials for a long time but I think the fact has finally settled in. Other Curt towing items are US Made and of high quality.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2667323_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667322":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2667322","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2667322":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:321363"},"id":"message:2667322","revisionNum":1,"uid":2667322,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2667310"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2667310"},"subject":"Re: How are you locking your fifth wheel puck hitch to the bed?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2667322"},"body":"
ford truck guy wrote:
^^ Thanks Cummins, I was waiting for your input ! I know how much you like the B&W for good reason ! ! ! I figured it was only a matter of time till we saw how it was done right !


HA, well it works for me as a registered lock a holic!!!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"207","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-07-13T18:09:19.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-07-13T18:09:19.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":916},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2667310/message:2667322","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"305","rawBody":"
ford truck guy wrote:
^^ Thanks Cummins, I was waiting for your input ! I know how much you like the B&W for good reason ! ! ! I figured it was only a matter of time till we saw how it was done right !


HA, well it works for me as a registered lock a holic!!!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2667322_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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