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Idahoan
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Aug 05, 2016

How long is to long?

I refer to myself as a backwoods camper, I like to camp off the beaten path. I currently own a 23ft bumper pull toy hauler but am looking to upgrade, but I have this fear of long trailers and getting into places I like to go. I found 2 trailer I like, one is bumper pull at 35ft and one is FW at 32 feet.

Is my fear of length warranted or am I worrying for nothing? Will the ten feet make a whole lot of difference?

When it comes to length and narrow roads and tight spaces which is better, FW or bumper pull?
  • Having gone from a 22ft to a 35ft to a 45ft trailer I don't think there is that much difference between where the 22ft bumper pull and 35ft fifth could go.

    In fact- there were some places in baja I could get my triple axle 35 ft fifth with the flipped axles into that there was no way to get the 22ft bumper pull into.

    Good luck on the decision!
  • A 35 ft bumper pull is going to be 39'-40' longer than your truck when towing. A 32' FW will only be about 26'-28' longer that your truck when towing and has a sharper turning radius (with right hitch and/or bed length).

    Food for thought.
  • I'm assuming your 35' bumper pull is the entire trailer. I have a 35' bumper pull toyhauler (Stealth WA2916) and on Forest Service roads I'm more watching for the overhead trees than anything else. But yes we've had to adjust some of our camping sites to make sure we grab the longest ones.

    This setup is only 5 feet longer than our Truck camper plus enclosed trailer but the toyhauler cuts the corners much more when cornering.

    Note that we are (so far) keeping our TC for when we want to fit in the small spaces and not take our toys. Like Glacier NP in a couple weeks.
  • If you can, before you buy, visit some CG that you like or wherever you camp. See if you can make it with something bigger. With USFS sites its not always the length of the site, but the interior roads. Some are not build to handle a longer rig being able to turn around or back one in. Look at other rigs in the area or talk to a Ranger (good luck on finding one) and ask them. If you're purely boondocking then I'd be looking for something that is build solid and for use off road. Assume you've looked at the Desert Fox line up already.
  • The total length of my bumper pull TH is 37.5ft long and with my long bed crew cab truck I am 57.5ft total length when hooked up. This is pretty long. I don't go on trips without checking into spot and road sizes because of this, but I am pretty consistent as to where I go and where I can fit. When checking out new spots I will look at the campground on google earth and use the measuring tool to get an idea of how big the spots are.
  • it is a valid concern if you are a 'backwoods' camper as you described yourself. Think of your current camping, did ya pull in with your current rv and say....wow bet I could not have gotten into here with something 30 plus feet? :) Your camping and past places can give you an idea of if it will be easy or not for you to increase your size. The height of the 5ths can be rough also.

    we went from a 40 ft 5th toy to a 34 ft (total length) TT toy. We love being smaller. But the way we rv now, we know our state parks and we know we can easily fit our 34 ft TT toy....when we retire we will probably go a bit smaller so we can do more 'backwoods' type camping. We want to be able to fit everywhere :) best of luck to you
  • Trailer length ?.... boils down to where you want to camp. And we all camp in different type terrain so what works for me won't work for others.

    My son camps in rv parks and well developed camp grounds. No way his 13' 4" tall by 36' long rv will go where we some times camp. Sometimes even my smaller 11' 9" tall 28rk 5er is too large where we would like to go.

    I always buy the unit we like and can afford and then travel and camp where it will fit.
  • That is a very difficult choice, since each of us has different requirements. When we bought our new trailer a little over a year ago, we decided that 27ft for a bumper pull and 30ft for a 5vr would be a long as we would be willing to go. We ended up with the bumper pull because most of the 5vrs where about a foot higher than the bumper pull.
  • I'm in the same geographic area as you are, and switched last year from a 28ft total length bumper pull to the current 5er listed at 35ft. The bumper pull was designed for off road, with the low point being 18 inches off the ground. My 5er sits high, but due to length it's really easy to bottom out. We really are limited to where we can get into compared to the last rig, was itself limited in comparison. to the ones that came before it.

    With the bigger rig you're going to find it hard to find anyplace you can make it to in the Uintah's on weekends. You'll be to big for logan canyon campground wise, and most dirt roads/spots in the hills west of bear lake. You'll also be quite limited in the Swell area, Henry mountains, Castle country etc. more so in the mountains and hills than the desert, but even the desert will present many areas where bed rail clearance and bottoming out are real issues.

    In my case, keeping the wife happy was a driving factor. Myself, the old highly modified off road popup I used to have was the ultimate camping machine as with the truck I pulled it with I could get into areas I can't get into with my 3500 Ram 4X4 not towing anything.
  • 2BLAZERS wrote:
    35' bumper pull toyhauler (Stealth WA2916)


    That is the exact trailer I am considering