There are still some 2017 Lifestyle Bay Views out there and can be had at a good price. A pretty solidly built unit. We've had dogs, and kids in it daily for a solid 6 months the last two seasons and it still looks - and smells - new. Its one of the only FW that has a walk in closet in the mid bunk - WD hookups are in there. Also has 102 inch frame with opposing slide outs in the living room making it very roomy. The Jayco NorthPoint was very high on our list as well. After looking at some NorthPoints at the Tampa RV show a few weeks ago I was surprised to see quite an increase in quality. Especially in the cabinetry.