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New truck.....now what?

I just bought a new to me 2012 Ram 3500 Dually 4*4. This truck sits higher than my 2004 ram did. I am going to have new 5th wheel rails installed but how do I get the correct highth to clear the bed of my new truck?

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BusaGuy wrote:
Well, I lowered my hitch one notch and hooked up the camper. The truck squated and I have about 7inches of clearance between the camper and the bed rails so I should be good to go. I sure do feel better. The setup looks level so I don't have to worry about the camper riding too high either. What a relief!!!

Perfect example of check it out first before spending a bunch of money.

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BusaGuy wrote:
Well, I lowered my hitch one notch and hooked up the camper. The truck squated and I have about 7inches of clearance between the camper and the bed rails so I should be good to go. I sure do feel better. The setup looks level so I don't have to worry about the camper riding too high either. What a relief!!!

Perfect example of check it out first before spending a bunch of money.

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Me Again wrote:
The new trucks settle more with load vs older trucks. Hitch up before you get to worried. Chris

That is fact! That is how they newer trucks ride better.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"175","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-06T09:12:38.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-06T09:12:38.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":350},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1167173/message:1167195","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"210","rawBody":"

Me Again wrote:
The new trucks settle more with load vs older trucks. Hitch up before you get to worried. Chris

That is fact! That is how they newer trucks ride better.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1167195_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:270146":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:270146","uid":270146,"login":"JIMNLIN","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-09-14T16:50:53.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:270146"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167194":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1167194","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1167194":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:270146"},"id":"message:1167194","revisionNum":1,"uid":1167194,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1167173"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1167173"},"subject":"Re: New truck.....now what?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167194"},"body":"

New truck.....now what?

Hook up the trailer \"first\" and then see what it if anything it needs. ou may be worrying about nothing.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"132","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-06T04:31:32.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-06T04:31:32.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":350},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1167173/message:1167194","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"159","rawBody":"

New truck.....now what?

Hook up the trailer \"first\" and then see what it if anything it needs. ou may be worrying about nothing.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1167194_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:115792":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:115792","uid":115792,"login":"Wood_chip","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-08-21T10:49:07.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:115792"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167193":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1167193","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1167193":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:115792"},"id":"message:1167193","revisionNum":1,"uid":1167193,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1167173"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1167173"},"subject":"Re: New truck.....now what?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167193"},"body":"

glazier wrote:
MtnRanch wrote:
I'd like to buy a 2015 Chevy/GMC 2500HD but I measured the height from the ground to the top of the bed rails and it is 59 1/2\". That's 1/2\" more than the distance from the ground to the bottom of my 5th wheel and I don't think my 5th is unusual. I understand that the truck will sag a bit but not until I connect and certainly not enough to give me reasonable clearance with a level trailer.

If anyone knows of a lowering kit please speak up. The trailer is already spring-over-axle so not much room to go there. It has a MorRyde suspension so I can't use the wheel alignment kit that raises the trailer by 2\".

What were GM engineers thinking? I asked a dealer about this and they pulled out a tape measure, made the same measurements that I did and then just gave me a befuddled, glazed stare.

I thought I'd ask some owners while I'm on this cross country trip. So far I've stayed in about 20 RV parks and I've yet to find a late model Chevy with a fifth wheel. Maybe that says it all.

I don't have a problem with my current setup.

MtnRanch
How did this work out for you? I have the identical truck to glazier but it is not here yet from Michigan. My theoretical numbers differ than glaziers but it appears I will be ok as well if my truck reacts like glaziers.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-05T17:17:17.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-05T17:17:17.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":350},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1167173/message:1167193","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1427","rawBody":"

glazier wrote:
MtnRanch wrote:
I'd like to buy a 2015 Chevy/GMC 2500HD but I measured the height from the ground to the top of the bed rails and it is 59 1/2\". That's 1/2\" more than the distance from the ground to the bottom of my 5th wheel and I don't think my 5th is unusual. I understand that the truck will sag a bit but not until I connect and certainly not enough to give me reasonable clearance with a level trailer.

If anyone knows of a lowering kit please speak up. The trailer is already spring-over-axle so not much room to go there. It has a MorRyde suspension so I can't use the wheel alignment kit that raises the trailer by 2\".

What were GM engineers thinking? I asked a dealer about this and they pulled out a tape measure, made the same measurements that I did and then just gave me a befuddled, glazed stare.

I thought I'd ask some owners while I'm on this cross country trip. So far I've stayed in about 20 RV parks and I've yet to find a late model Chevy with a fifth wheel. Maybe that says it all.

I don't have a problem with my current setup.

MtnRanch
How did this work out for you? I have the identical truck to glazier but it is not here yet from Michigan. My theoretical numbers differ than glaziers but it appears I will be ok as well if my truck reacts like glaziers.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1167193_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:246662":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:246662","uid":246662,"login":"glazier","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-01-18T05:30:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:246662"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167192":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1167192","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1167192":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:246662"},"id":"message:1167192","revisionNum":1,"uid":1167192,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1167173"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1167173"},"subject":"Re: New truck.....now what?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167192"},"body":"

MtnRanch wrote:
Glazier - what is the distance between the bottom of the trailer and the ground when the trailer is sitting level? How much clearance are you getting?

My truck pulls almost perfect level with my pin weight. My trailer is about 1\" Nose High.

No Pin weight on my truck, just my hitch and full tank of fuel, no passengers- Top of Bed Rails in Rear = 57-1/2\"

Loaded With Pin Weight, Top of Bed Rails in Rear - 55-1/2

Truck Squats 2\" under Pin Weight

Bottom of trailer after hooked to hitch, ready to roll - 63-1/2\"

Bed Clearance = 8\"","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1167192_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:86797":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:86797","uid":86797,"login":"MtnRanch","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-05-30T18:58:34.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:86797"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167191":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1167191","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1167191":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:86797"},"id":"message:1167191","revisionNum":1,"uid":1167191,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1167173"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1167173"},"subject":"Re: New truck.....now what?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167191"},"body":"Glazier - what is the distance between the bottom of the trailer and the ground when the trailer is sitting level? How much clearance are you getting?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"151","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-06-02T05:44:16.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-06-02T05:44:16.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":350},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1167173/message:1167191","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"151","rawBody":"Glazier - what is the distance between the bottom of the trailer and the ground when the trailer is sitting level? How much clearance are you getting?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1167191_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167190":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1167190","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1167190":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:246662"},"id":"message:1167190","revisionNum":1,"uid":1167190,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1167173"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1167173"},"subject":"Re: New truck.....now what?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167190"},"body":"

MtnRanch wrote:
I'd like to buy a 2015 Chevy/GMC 2500HD but I measured the height from the ground to the top of the bed rails and it is 59 1/2\". That's 1/2\" more than the distance from the ground to the bottom of my 5th wheel and I don't think my 5th is unusual. I understand that the truck will sag a bit but not until I connect and certainly not enough to give me reasonable clearance with a level trailer.

If anyone knows of a lowering kit please speak up. The trailer is already spring-over-axle so not much room to go there. It has a MorRyde suspension so I can't use the wheel alignment kit that raises the trailer by 2\".

What were GM engineers thinking? I asked a dealer about this and they pulled out a tape measure, made the same measurements that I did and then just gave me a befuddled, glazed stare.

I thought I'd ask some owners while I'm on this cross country trip. So far I've stayed in about 20 RV parks and I've yet to find a late model Chevy with a fifth wheel. Maybe that says it all.

I don't have a problem with my current setup.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-05-30T19:49:56.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-05-30T19:49:56.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":350},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1167173/message:1167190","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1130","rawBody":"

MtnRanch wrote:
I'd like to buy a 2015 Chevy/GMC 2500HD but I measured the height from the ground to the top of the bed rails and it is 59 1/2\". That's 1/2\" more than the distance from the ground to the bottom of my 5th wheel and I don't think my 5th is unusual. I understand that the truck will sag a bit but not until I connect and certainly not enough to give me reasonable clearance with a level trailer.

If anyone knows of a lowering kit please speak up. The trailer is already spring-over-axle so not much room to go there. It has a MorRyde suspension so I can't use the wheel alignment kit that raises the trailer by 2\".

What were GM engineers thinking? I asked a dealer about this and they pulled out a tape measure, made the same measurements that I did and then just gave me a befuddled, glazed stare.

I thought I'd ask some owners while I'm on this cross country trip. So far I've stayed in about 20 RV parks and I've yet to find a late model Chevy with a fifth wheel. Maybe that says it all.

I don't have a problem with my current setup.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1167190_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167189":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1167189","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1167189":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:86797"},"id":"message:1167189","revisionNum":1,"uid":1167189,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1167173"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1167173"},"subject":"Re: New truck.....now what?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167189"},"body":"I'd like to buy a 2015 Chevy/GMC 2500HD but I measured the height from the ground to the top of the bed rails and it is 59 1/2\". That's 1/2\" more than the distance from the ground to the bottom of my 5th wheel and I don't think my 5th is unusual. I understand that the truck will sag a bit but not until I connect and certainly not enough to give me reasonable clearance with a level trailer.

If anyone knows of a lowering kit please speak up. The trailer is already spring-over-axle so not much room to go there. It has a MorRyde suspension so I can't use the wheel alignment kit that raises the trailer by 2\".

What were GM engineers thinking? I asked a dealer about this and they pulled out a tape measure, made the same measurements that I did and then just gave me a befuddled, glazed stare.

I thought I'd ask some owners while I'm on this cross country trip. So far I've stayed in about 20 RV parks and I've yet to find a late model Chevy with a fifth wheel. Maybe that says it all.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-05-30T19:09:58.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-05-30T19:09:58.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":350},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1167173/message:1167189","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1027","rawBody":"I'd like to buy a 2015 Chevy/GMC 2500HD but I measured the height from the ground to the top of the bed rails and it is 59 1/2\". That's 1/2\" more than the distance from the ground to the bottom of my 5th wheel and I don't think my 5th is unusual. I understand that the truck will sag a bit but not until I connect and certainly not enough to give me reasonable clearance with a level trailer.

If anyone knows of a lowering kit please speak up. The trailer is already spring-over-axle so not much room to go there. It has a MorRyde suspension so I can't use the wheel alignment kit that raises the trailer by 2\".

What were GM engineers thinking? I asked a dealer about this and they pulled out a tape measure, made the same measurements that I did and then just gave me a befuddled, glazed stare.

I thought I'd ask some owners while I'm on this cross country trip. So far I've stayed in about 20 RV parks and I've yet to find a late model Chevy with a fifth wheel. 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My old RBW hitch sat way low and this is the problem that can be fixed but you need the proper hitch.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-05-19T06:23:32.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-05-19T06:23:32.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":350},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1167173/message:1167188","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"562","rawBody":"I had a 2003 3/4 ton Ram 4x4, now I have a 2012 Ram 3500 dually 4x4. I still tow the same trailer without any issues. First I have the shackles on the suspension up to the top bolt hole and adjustment of the pin box. I also use a B&W 3300 and it sits at the top setting. I measured the other day and I have 9 in of clearance. My truck squats about 2 inches with the loaded fiver. It rides level. My hitch sits just below my rails with at the highest level. My old RBW hitch sat way low and this is the problem that can be fixed but you need the proper hitch.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1167188_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167187":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1167187","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1167187":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:64276"},"id":"message:1167187","revisionNum":1,"uid":1167187,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1167173"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1167173"},"subject":"Re: New truck.....now what?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1167187"},"body":"Well, I lowered my hitch one notch and hooked up the camper. The truck squated and I have about 7inches of clearance between the camper and the bed rails so I should be good to go. I sure do feel better. The setup looks level so I don't have to worry about the camper riding too high either. 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The truck squated and I have about 7inches of clearance between the camper and the bed rails so I should be good to go. I sure do feel better. The setup looks level so I don't have to worry about the camper riding too high either. 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