Pullrite 2600 with the big boys

timelinex wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

timelinex wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
So you are saying the hitch mentioned should be used with toy haulers so the pin is less?

Tandem axle 5ers have 20-25% pin weight. On the higher side especially if fulltiming.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. So I will restate my point.

My post had nothing to do with using a specific hitch. I am saying that the rule of thumb you are using (20%-25%) is not a god given fact, but just a rule of thumb that applies to maybe most 5er's. However, that there are many 5er layouts that produce 15%-20% hitch weights, by design and layout.

For Example: If you look up factory numbers for the Grand Design 381m (NOT THE 381MS) you will find they are much less than 20%. Then if you look up peoples posts on what their hitch weights are for their FULLY LOADED 281m trailer weights... You will quickly find almost no one is breaking 20%. Most are at 16%-18%. It's not because they all decided to irresponsibly swing the rear end of their trailer down the freeway.

The problem is what i saw was you were posting unloaded factory weights. Most all weight added to a standard 5er goes to the pin. Toyhaulers are a different animal.

My original point is it is unrealistic to have a 28k hitch with only 5k pin unless those numbers are not correct???

OK, sorry I misunderstood you. You were commenting that even though it's possible to have a 5k pin with 28k trailer, it would be odd to make a hitch with those limits since you would only be able to come close to that tow rating with that little pin weight in a minority of applications. Effectively making it a 20k hitch for most people.

I agree that this is odd, but seems fairly consistent to how truck manufacturers do it. Sell based on tow capacity and smuggle in the piss poor payload rating under covers.