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foster6879
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Apr 14, 2016

short bed hitch and pin requirements

i am in the process of purchasing a Jayco 26.5 Fifth wheel trailer. I currently own a short box 5.5 ft toyota tundra pick up. My dealer is saying all I need is the Sidewinder Pin Box for the fifth wheel and a regular hitch for the pickup bed. I am worried about 90 degree turns. Is it required to have both a sidewinder pin for the trailer and a sidewinder hitch for the truck bed? The dealer is saying no but in the same sentence he stated to be cautious making 90 degree turns. Please advise is you have any experience with this situation. We are supposed to pick up the trailer Saturday.

16 Replies

  • In twelve years of towing fivers, I don't remember a single time I had to get the truck around to 90 degrees. People way over-think (and over-worry) that topic.

    I don't want to rain on your RVing experience, but I don't think Toyota even rates the Tundra for 5th wheel towing. Bumper pulls, yes; but not fivers. I know there was no rating in the 2014 Trailer Life Towing Guide.
  • You need a Sidewinder or a PullRight Superglide to overcome the challenge of having a super short bed truck. Forget about the 90° thing...sure folks can get there but they are not really doing anything at 90° but twisting the trailer...no real backwards motion can be achieved if you are pushing 90° on the pin.

    With the CrewMax you may hit the cab at much less than 90° hence the need for a hitch that is either always sliding back when you are turning (Pullrite) or a hitch that physically moves the pivot point back (Sidewinder)...

    Tons of people tow a fifth wheel with a Tundra...most are overloading the truck. Many add airbags to the rear and LT tires as replacements for the factory P rated tires. These mods will help but you may be close on your axle ratings.

    We have a forum member who pulls a fiver with a Tundra...he may chime in with some other tips.

    Thanks and good luck no matter what you decide.

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah
  • I would expect you to be at or more likely over your RAWR with just the dry trailer sitting the hitch, let alone any cargo or water in the trailer or truck (or passengers for that matter).

    If you're going to try doing it you should look at your tires and make sure you stay within the ratings on them - might need to upgrade. Might need to upgrade the suspension too but at some point you need to decide when it makes more sense to just upgrade to a heavy duty truck.
  • Look at the Anderson ultimate to save some payload and a ton of money. They work great


    Chris
  • Not to be the bearer of bad news, but you do not have a good tow vehicle to tow a FW of that size. Will it do it? Probably, but you will have payload issues, maybe over RAWR, maybe over tire rating. In addition, to answer your question 5.5' truck beds, generally are not designed for FW use. A sidewinder pin box will help. I would not use this truck, if it were me. You can decide, for yourself, but any 25 series truck, with a 6.5'/8' bed would be a much better choice.

    Jerry
  • I don't know anything about the Sidewinder. I can tell you the Pullrite Superglide 12k auto hitch would allow you to get to a 90 degree turn.