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Second_Chance
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Mar 31, 2014

Slightly different question - fivers & full-timing

Hello, everyone. I've been on the forum for a while, but spend over half my time (and posts) on the travel trailer forum since that's what we have right now. This question, however, has to do with fifth wheel RVs specifically (and less with full-timing or other topics).

Here's the situation: I'm tentatively planning on retiring (again - already retired from the Army) in February or March of 2015... about a year from now. We plan to spend significant amounts of time on the road in the U.S. with an RV and perhaps 4 - 6 weeks a year in Ecuador. (If anyone is interested in the "why" on Ecuador, PM me and I'll be glad to share.) We're even considering selling the house and making the RV home base for the 10 or 11 months we're in the states each year. Our current rig - a Surveyor Sport 220 - isn't large enough (and doesn't have enough storage) to full-time in, in our opinion, so we would move up to a fifth wheel when the time comes. We have a new (6,000 miles) 2013 Sierra 2500HD crew cab with the Duramax/Allison combination for a tow vehicle. I have towed various loads for 40 years and understand towing capacity, trailer dry weight vs. GVWR, tow vehicle GVWR, GCWR, rear gross axle weight rating, max payload, etc., and I'm a believer in staying at no more than 80% of the rated capacity for any of these specs. I also don't want a unit so large that I can't get it into and out of state and national parks, etc.

With the above scenario in mind, I would like to explore less-than-maxi fifth wheel RVs that meet a few requirements. I have seen many posts on this and other forums stating that a full-width bedroom closet is a must for long-term living in an RV. To do this, there really needs to be a bedroom slide with the bed oriented side-to-side (we actually prefer queen to king - it's plenty of bed for us and takes up less space). We would also like a "double-wide" refrigerator (something larger than the 8 or 9 cf camper units) and seating in the living area that faces the entertainment center. While I’m at it, I’m not a big fan of dinettes… we would prefer even a very small table and two chairs.

Here's the question: Is there a decently-built, smaller/lighter fiver with at least the bedroom slide that might be suitable for our purposes? I've been combing the manufacturer's sites and haven't come up with the "perfect" solution. I realize that everything is a compromise and that we won't find everything we want in a small package, but I'd like to find the right balance.

Let the race begin!

Thanks,

Rob

26 Replies

  • Rob,

    In reading through several RV forums for the past 10 years,it seems most full timers actually end up with fewer clothes than prior to full timing. Since most are trying to get to warm weather (Shorts & Tee shirts are the normal dress). Cold weather clothes are needed and usually kept in a water tight storage container and brought out as needed.

    Even my DW who brings 8 outfits for a weekend trip has trouble filling up our full width closet for the 3 months we stay in San Diego area every year.

    Here's a good site for tips on full timing:
    www.rv-dreams.com

    In shopping for an RV we focus on comfort and convenience... is it easy to move around inside when there are two or more people.
    Lots of outside storage for all the stuff/toys.
    Comfortable place to relax and comfortable dining setup.
    Room for washer and dryer
    Large bathroom, toilet area and shower.
    Nice kitchen layout with counter space.
    Closet space was very low on our list (most of the time I have a couple of shorts, long pants and a few shirts plus t-shirts with a jacket for cold.)
  • If you want a smaller rig, you trade off storage and amenities.

    We've full timed in the rig in our signature. It doesn't have a full width bedroom closet and we do just fine. I suppose it depends on how many clothes you have. It has two small closets either side of the bed and a larger closet across from the bathroom.

    Likewise, once you get used to it, the standard fridge does fine for us (the fridge on our boat is even smaller but that one does take a fair bit of organizing). I suspose it depends on how you want to live but a weekly shopping trip will be stored just fine.

    Dinnet: Especially as you move away from the monster rigs, storage becomes a consideration. The seats under the dinet provide a lot of storage space. If you are dead set against them, most units have a table and chairs as an option or it wouldn't be hard to remove the dinet and put a table and chairs in (make sure you have a means to secure them while driving).

    Short of a custom order, there probably never will be a "perfect" solution. Even with a custom order, there are trade offs.
  • I retire from the DOD tomorrow. (4/1/14) I retired from the Air Force Feb 1, 1992. DW retired from the DOJ/DEA 3 years ago. Partner we are done!!!:B

    We have a small 10 YO 30' 2 slide 5'er that we ordered new in Oct 2003 and put in service 01/2004. (See Sig) We plan to spend 6 to 9 months a year in it traveling. We're keeping our house...it's finally paid for and you can't beat free rent. We expect our little 5'er will be enough for us. I think regardless of the size of 5'er, you soon max it out as to it's cargo capability and something has to stay home. IMHO: For 3/4 and full timing, any middle of the road 30' 5'er like ours will work for you if you let it. There are places we go that any 5'er much over 30' would be difficult if not impossible to get the camprer in to. Search the internet initially for your 5'er as there's no shortage of reasonably priced middle of the road 5'ers, ask the questions here on the forum like you have, and good luck.

    Happy camping!!! See y'all down the road!!!:)
  • Only because I'm partial to Dutchmen and Keystone brands, here's a couple floor plans from the Keystone Outback trailers. One is a 5er the other is a TT. Notice the floor plans are very similar. The advantage of the 5er is the extra storage in basement area. The advantage of the TT is, it's a lighter unit.

    You said noting about kids, so I'm assuming it's just you and your spouse. If that's the case, you don't need bunks and all that. The two models below are similar, although the bed is in the front and the closet is the slide. We have the TT version ... absolutely love it. Living room nice and BIG, Bedroom roomy, bathroom ... big enough a guy can sit on the "throne" and actually be comfortable!

    These are just examples to consider, but the thing that makes these 2 so special is all the windows on both sides and the back in the living room.

    FYI: Our Outback TT came with the free standing table and chairs. We removed 2 chairs and turned the table. Works perfect for 2 people!


    315FRE Outback 5er:


    298RE Outback TT:
  • Thanks for responding, Steve. I would like to keep it under $60K and am willing to consider used if in good condition. In a smaller unit, this should still buy quality, though. I've just not found a side-to-side bed/slide with full-width closet in anything less that 36 feet or so, though.
  • For full timing, I suppose you will want a quality rig. What kind of budget for purchase are you looking at? This would help rule out some less expensive models. There are so many floor plans that have that type of bedroom closet arrangement.