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AH64ID
Apr 26, 2015Explorer
Wildwilly101 wrote:
So then there is never a reason to purchase a 3500 truck? This is the type of advice that gets people into trouble. I wanted to believe that too since the 08 2500 and 3500 both shared the same front axle, all I needed to do was beef up the rear. The air bags allowed it to set level, but did not provide enough stiffness to manage the dynamic load experienced on the highway. Implying that I don’t know what I’m talking about is ludicrous since you did not experience my circumstance, and are suggesting running an overloaded truck is safe and prudent as long as you put on air bags. No I do not trust you or anything you claim, Trusting people’s claims is what caused this near disaster in the first place. Yes I knew better but didn’t want to spend the bucks on a new truck so I had to find out for myself. There are limits to what air bags can do in a dynamic loading situation as experienced at highway speeds. Suggesting the rear suspension on my 08 is the same as the one on my 3500 discredits everything you claim. A blind man can see the difference. Enough said
I never once said to run overload.. go back and read it again!!! I stated that the sticker ratings were underrated. There is a BIG difference, surely you can understand that.
Your truck shared more than the front axle with a DRW of the same year. The Frame, front suspension, brakes, steering, and rear axle are all the same and rated the same. The difference, aside from DRW vs SRW, was rear suspension. As I stated above the DRW main leaf pack is a mere 7% stiffer than the 2500 main leaf pack. It looks a lot more but it isn't. The 4/1 vs 3/1 pack has a big effect on that. The DRW's do have overloads that come into play around 6,500# on the rear axle. That takes ± 3,500lbs of pin weight, which is more than you claim you have.
Let's say you have 7,000lbs on the rear axle and the DRW overloads have compressed 1". You don't even need 50 psi in the airbags to have the same support.
You don't have to believe me but I suggest you do the research yourself before you make more false statements. The information is out there if you spend the time looking, and it's really not that hard to find.
The 2015 air suspension is a perfect example of how what I am telling you is correct. It has weaker main leafs than your 2008 did and airbags... like I said rated at 9,750# RAWR and up to a 37,500# GCWR... Tell the Ram engineers that airbags cannot handle it in a dynamic load!!! Believe what you want to believe, but at least consider at the facts before you make your opinion. Facts should effect opinions, not the other way around.
Now you have spent the bucks on a new truck, so enjoy it!!! Just don't put false information out there to justify your purchase.
There are lots of reasons to get a DRW, but the main reason you claim you did (the rear suspension) was not one of them.
It is possible most of your issue was the tire choice, and not the suspension. Even a 3,750# LRE rated tire is going to have a LOT more flex and give than a pair of 3042# LRE tires. I have ran with LRE tires near their max rating and it indues a lot of movement into the truck and is one of the reasons I now run LRG tires.
IDman wrote:
Let us know when you will be hitched up and traveling because I don't want to be anywhere in front of you when you try to stop!
Just because "others do it" doesn't mean it is safe, legal, or right!
That could be the most useless comment of the thread for a couple of reasons.
Mostly because no pickup is designed to STOP the trailer.. the trailer brakes stop the trailer!!!
Even the biggest and baddest pickup is only rated for 2,000lbs of trailer without brakes.
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