SOS Towing question

That payload seems unusually low for a 15 F-250. The towing guide from Trailer Life shows fiver ratings of at least 15,000# for any cab/bed configuration. Pin weight alone would be about 3,000 pounds.

Not questioning your information about your own (not mine) truck, but where did 2,200# come from? (Well, I guess I am questioning it!) That just doesn't seem right.

You are in much better shape than the OP, due to the new 250. Your payload is low, but can be improved more easily, than a much older model. Just bags, or spring mods, possibly tires, would make yours more capable.

Jerry

Not to hi-jack this thread, but looking for some info for myself. (seems to be somewhat similar to the OP)

We currently have a TT, with distant future plans of buying a 5th Wheel. Our '15 f-250 6.7L has a payload capacity of 2200#. We are well within our limits as of now with the TT. However, if we would go the 5th wheel route, it seems we will be immediately overweight given the pin weight of a decent sized 5th? Does that sound right, or is there something I'm missing?

Thanks in advance.

rgstarnes wrote:
If all the other specs are ok, you can increase the pin weigh number with a leaf addition to the springs and having the installer re-certify the truck max load weigh.

The weak point is the tires!!!
The stock 6,084 rating is due to the 245/75-16E's!!!!

If all the other specs are ok, you can increase the pin weigh number with a leaf addition to the springs and having the installer re-certify the truck max load weigh.

Rudyp wrote:
OK FELLOW FIVERS. HERE IS INFO I GOT FROM FORD YESTERDAY. I WENT TO THE FORD DEALER................. IF YOU ARE DOING FIFTH WHEEL TOWING WITH ...........
THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 7.3 TD HAULS 14,000 POUNDS FOR THE TWO WHEEL DRIVE.
13,500 POUNDS FOR THE THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE
13,700 POUNDS FOR THE SUPER CAB TWO WHEEL DRIVE.
13,200 POUNDS FOR THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE SUPER CAB.
13,400 POUNDS FOR THE TWO WHEEL DRIVE CREW CAB
13,400 POUNDS FOR THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE CREW CAB
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TIME YOU TOOK TO SEND ME YOU INFORMATION. GOD BLESS

OK, you got half the story - what your truck can PULL.
Now go and get the other (and IMHO more important) half - what it can CARRY. That is where you are going to run into trouble with a fiver.

rudyp,
Not sure why the Ford Fleet guy does not know the difference between towing & hauling. Cargo capacity is your limitation. As others have suggested, get the truck weighed ready to go camping. What is left over after subtracting the weight of the hitch is what you have left for pin weight of a 5er. I went through this a few years ago. Had a two year old 2500HD and wanted a 5er. I thought I would have no problems towing the trailer. After looking at my door sticker and weighing the truck, I quickly realized that I would be over my GVWR pulling the empty 5er off the lot. I opted to get a bigger truck and went with a DRW so that I could expand in the future.

In the end, it's going to be your call, but I doubt you will find many here that will endorse the plan to haul this 5er with your truck.

lawrosa wrote:
Yes rud... it dont matter what you can pull... its you pin/tongue weight...

Get the truck weighed already!!!! Ugggg

X2!!!!!!

#1. You will be OVER GVWR as I stated before, unless that F250 is a stripper model and very, very light ready to tow you will exceed your GVWR by as much as 1,800 to 2,000#.

#2. The 6,084 rear axle, yes currently limited by the stock 245/75-16E tires (3,042# ea.), you can get a little extra capacity by going to a 265/75-16E (3,415# ea.). Personally that is what came stock on my TV with Camper Package, I like the extra safety margin of the extra 746# of tire capacity over the axle rating.

#3. Four speed auto, you will be looking at a rebuild, you are going to be working it real hard with the extra HP from the Banks Kit.

I tow over GVWR, but within all other ratings, I don't recommend to others, I had been towing a smaller 5er with my TV, I knew how it tow that and what to expect.

Do yourself a favor, go get your TV weighed. Load it as you would to go camping, then report that number back.

Yes rud... it dont matter what you can pull... its you pin/tongue weight...

Get the truck weighed already!!!! Ugggg

JIMNLIN wrote:

Rudyp wrote:
What would any of you recommended the Max I go on a 5th?

Fleet Ford specs says your year model F250 7.3 diesel can tow up to a 13,200 lb trailer which it will have no problems pulling down the road. The truck brakes will stop the truck and the trailers brakes will stop the trailer. If your don't then get the fixed.

Your F250 simply doesn't have the (6084 RAWR) wheels/tires and rear spring pack for carrying a 14k-15k lb trailers pin weight without some serious mods for carrying more weight.
Having made a living pulling 15k GN trailers with mostly LDTs I sure would put a old truck on the road and expect it to last very long pulling that heavy load.

I would stick with Fords 13k max trailer weight and 2500 lb range wet pin weights for your older truck.

Jimnlin,thank you for your response and concern. Yesterday I went to the Ford Dealer and spoke to a Fleet sales person who deals with all there trucks. He brought my trucks info up on his computer ( I gave him my Vin). He then went to a a For website and pulled up fifth wheel towing information and printer me a copy of it. Here is what it states: 7.3 TD ENGINE - THE 7.3 TD ENGINE ONLY COMES EQUIPPED WITH A 3.73:1 AXLE. ALL F-250 7.3TD MODELS WILL ALSO GIVE YOU 10,000 OF CONVENTIONAL HAULING CAPACITY IF YOU HAVE MANUAL OR AUTOMATIC. IF YOU ARE DOING FIFTH WHEEL TOWING WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION, THEY ARE AS FOLLOWS: 14,000 POUNDS FOR THE TWO-WHEEL DRIVE, 13,500 POUNDS FOR THE FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE. 13,600 POUNDS FOR A SUPER CAB TWO-WHEEL DRIVE. 13,200 POUNDS FOR A FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE SUPER CAB. 13,300 POUNDS FOR A TWO WHEEL CREW CAB
12,900 POUNDS FOR THE FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE CREW CAB

THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 7.3 TD HAULS 14,000 POUNDS FOR THE TWO WHEEL DRIVE.
13,500 POUNDS FOR THE THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE
13,700 POUNDS FOR THE SUPER CAB TWO WHEEL DRIVE.
13,200 POUNDS FOR THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE SUPER CAB.
13,400 POUNDS FOR THE TWO WHEEL DRIVE CREW CAB
13,400 POUNDS FOR THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE CREW CAB