Thanks all for your thoughts..
Lantley... I have seen these types of racks before, good to know 4 bikes will fit and you can still maneuver correctly. (I have only seen the 2 bike) We really don't like having the bikes in the trailer (just for the fact they are dirty), we did that before I bought the f-350 and we had an EXPY. Also, when we go on our longer summer trips, we stay in many campgrounds and taking the bikes in/ out of the trailer is not fun.
As long as I can fit the portable waste tank in the bed, firewood and other dirty items, coolers and such.. I could then organize the basement to hold the tables and everything else. Toy haulers are not an option, they just don't fit our needs and wants
We have the year to research and look around, by that time we will have saved what we needed as either one we get will be more expensive that what we have now. I am just trying to see where I should concentrate my research.
Thanks