St tires vs LT tires

memtb wrote:
Howard, I merely offered what the tire manufacturers (Goodyear technician statement) say about their products. Perhaps, and I pray it "never" happens, your expert testimony could be used in the defendants court case!! memtb

At eleven years you have been around the forum long enough to have learned the that marketing around ST has not matched their performance. ST tires have been cheap products built originally for local service on utility type trailers. They found their way onto large RV trailers on Americas freeways with very poor results.

Now finally many years later we have seen two new updates to the Carlisle Radial Train and GY now has the new Endurance ST offering.

For 5200 and 6K axles the best choice is to install LT245/75R16E or LT235/85R16E Michelin XPS Ribs or Bridgestone Dravis R250 all steel ply tires. For 7K axles Sailun S367 or GV G614 are the best choices.

Chris

Howard, I merely offered what the tire manufacturers (Goodyear technician statement) say about their products. Perhaps, and I pray it "never" happens, your expert testimony could be used in the defendants court case!! memtb

Also, as for the "many" tire failures experienced by most of us... There are many reasons. RV manufactures are famous for putting on the lightest axles/tires/rims that they can get away with. We the RV'ers, are guilty of "overloading" those axles/tires/rims! And, many of us are all guilty of running tires well beyond there expiration date! General consensus among tire manufacturers is seven(7) years,then replace. It's very hard for me to do, when they "look" fine. When I haul mine to the dump in six(6) years, I'm gonna "puke" after dropping $2400.00 on them!! memtb

memtb wrote:
djgarcia, The primary difference is "beefer" cording in the sidewalls of the ST tires, whether it be polyester or steel. Trailer tires, because of their use, experience much more "side loading" during the sharp turn of the trailer. The stiffer sidewalls reduce the probability of the tire "rolling" off of the bead during an extremely sharp turn. If you look at commercial truck tires... You have "steer" tires, drive or traction tires, and trailer tires. Granted, these are a more "specialized" service, but the logic is the same! memtb


If you do a Google search, you can get a better explanation than I am capable of providing!!

Also... In our world of lawyers and litigation, if you use an LT tire in place of an ST tire and a tire failure caused a major (injuries or fatalities) auto accident.... you "may" be held liable in court!!

Really?!!!
You can't be serious here especially that last sentence. Total fear mongering. You must have a stake in some tire business.

Keith

memtb wrote:
djgarcia, The primary difference is "beefer" cording in the sidewalls of the ST tires, whether it be polyester or steel. Trailer tires, because of their use, experience much more "side loading" during the sharp turn of the trailer. The stiffer sidewalls reduce the probability of the tire "rolling" off of the bead during an extremely sharp turn. If you look at commercial truck tires... You have "steer" tires, drive or traction tires, and trailer tires. Granted, these are a more "specialized" service, but the logic is the same! memtb


If you do a Google search, you can get a better explanation than I am capable of providing!!

Also... In our world of lawyers and litigation, if you use an LT tire in place of an ST tire and a tire failure caused a major (injuries or fatalities) auto accident.... you "may" be held liable in court!!

If you ever compared an ST tire and an LT tire side by side you'd realize that nonsense about "stiffer sidewalls" is just that...nonsense.

And please explain how running an LT tire with appropriate load ratings in place of an ST tire could ever be held liable for anything in an accident.

djgarcia, The primary difference is "beefer" cording in the sidewalls of the ST tires, whether it be polyester or steel. Trailer tires, because of their use, experience much more "side loading" during the sharp turn of the trailer. The stiffer sidewalls reduce the probability of the tire "rolling" off of the bead during an extremely sharp turn. If you look at commercial truck tires... You have "steer" tires, drive or traction tires, and trailer tires. Granted, these are a more "specialized" service, but the logic is the same! memtb


If you do a Google search, you can get a better explanation than I am capable of providing!!

Also... In our world of lawyers and litigation, if you use an LT tire in place of an ST tire and a tire failure caused a major (injuries or fatalities) auto accident.... you "may" be held liable in court!!

alaska511 wrote:
Good stuff. Our new trailer has Rainier tires. Neve-. New tires on a new trailerr heard of them. We are prepping for a long trip, and my first instinct was to go with a good LT tire. Dealer does have the Maxxis, but Good Year and Firestone 10 plies have certainly served me well over the years.

Any experiences with these Rainiers? I suspect they are some imported junk

New tires on a new trailer are usually the cheapest tires the mfg. can use. I would replace right away with Good Year LT tire.

I am a 10 year 37' Fifth Wheel tower who has used them all and have the bills and scars to prove it. Skip all the debate and install Michelin XPS Ribs and your potential misery will be greatly diminished. They are expensive but the damaged that usually comes from a blowout not to mention the delays and expense is greater not to mention the safety factor.

Stick with your first instinct and go with a well known LT tire!
16" will have a 3,042# rating, yes lower than a similar size ST, but I would trust the LT a lot more. The GVWR of your 5er is less than 12,000# so a good set of LT's will do you great.

Good stuff. Our new trailer has Rainier tires. Never heard of them. We are prepping for a long trip, and my first instinct was to go with a good LT tire. Dealer does have the Maxxis, but Good Year and Firestone 10 plies have certainly served me well over the years.

Any experiences with these Rainiers? I suspect they are some imported junk