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Then what?

So most governments have set a time line when the end of the internal combustion engine Must occur, (Moderator comment: Political comments removed) . So then what? Does anyone honestly think there ...

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Jan 01, 2023

Jeffery2k wrote:
All 2023 models will have preconditioned batteries. No model from 2022 has battery preconditioning. The hearing system in the 2022 model Battery is different. Different from battery precondition.

Battery preconditions via software or hardware were not made explicit by Hyundai. In my opinion, the battery preconditioning feature for 2023 will be a hardware update, while the battery preconditioning for the 2022 model may be a software feature. Although it might not be as effective as the 2023 model, it might still be an improvement.

Yah. I think Rivian took the same approach and will add some sort of hardware heating device in 2023.

Tesla does both methods all there approach has changed over the years as well.

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Will we have to outfit our trailers with batteries to provide a boost for the truck doing the pulling? Or will the average middle class joe have to go back to tent camping?
Will there be aux battery packs that we can drop into the truck bed and tie down and plug in for extra mileage, and then take back out so we are not toting around the unnecessary weight when not towing

What's your thoughts on the future changes coming?"},"Conversation:conversation:3610557":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3610557","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3610557"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-01-08T11:56:09.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2023-01-08T11:56:09.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":99,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3610557":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3610557","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3610557_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3610557_1","lastEditTime":"2022-12-29T05:49:09.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3610629":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3610629","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3610557"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:145744"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3610629,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"subject":"Re: Then what?","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3610629"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3610557"},"body":"

Jeffery2k wrote:
All 2023 models will have preconditioned batteries. No model from 2022 has battery preconditioning. The hearing system in the 2022 model Battery is different. Different from battery precondition.

Battery preconditions via software or hardware were not made explicit by Hyundai. In my opinion, the battery preconditioning feature for 2023 will be a hardware update, while the battery preconditioning for the 2022 model may be a software feature. Although it might not be as effective as the 2023 model, it might still be an improvement.

Yah. I think Rivian took the same approach and will add some sort of hardware heating device in 2023.

Tesla does both methods all there approach has changed over the years as 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