tire wall separation

CapriRacer wrote:

Me Again wrote:

FastEagle wrote:
I like this one because it shows pictures.

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Keep in mind this is a newish trailer and the damage could have been down on the way to the dealer and continued while at the dealership.


FastEagle

Well there he is in living color even, tire company people always blame failures on the users and never on their tires! At least Goodyear...... well you know, maybe they are different from the rest!

Chris

Chris,

Did you even look at the link? It's from Transport Canada - that would be a government agency. Goodyear (or any other tire brand) is NOT mentioned anywhere in the article!

You need to stop making false accusations and unwarranted assumptions. You have developed the reputation of being argumentative and totally unreliable.

Great Barry, we get to talk to a real tire person. Do you believe that all these ST tire failures are user related or do we have a tire type that is just not up to the job? Yes I looked at the link. The person that posted it has one of the worst tire records going, yet he defends them to the end blaming any and all failures on the user.

And please do not again say going up in load range will resolve the issue or I will find and post the link from the user that just said he tried Carlisle LRF ST tires and had two failures in the first year. Maybe was in this thread back a page or two and you have already seen that.

Please explain how tire issues basically go away for most users when they switch from ST to LT tires on their trailer, and claim that they did not change anything else such as speed, area driven, air pressure maintenance, and covering when not in use.

While you are at it, please explain why Goodyear is so good about warrantying failures and paying for trailer damage when their and most other warranties exclude consequential damages. Note in all cases Goodyear first must receive the failed tire for their engineers to look at. If they are finding the user at fault would they be paying for new tires and trailer damage? I have never heard of them turning down a claim on a tire submitted which includes their G614 LRG that has had a bit of a checkered past.

Maybe just once we can get to the bottom of this issue that is repeated over and over again? And quit blame the poor consumer that is being sold an expensive trailer with the cheapest tires that the manufacturer can source for the OEM installation. If this situation was occurring on cars, pickups, vans and SUVs it would be all over the evening news. 20-20 and 60 minutes would be doing segments. Is it that just pocket books are getting killed, not people? What is it going to take.

Wasn't this one of your quotes? "Put a different way, the load carrying capacity of an ST tire is 20% greater than an LT tire. Since durability is strictly a long term issue - and the results of a tire failure on a trailer are much less life threatening than on a truck - the folks that set up these load / inflation pressure relationships allow a greater......ah......let's call it load intensity."

I know for Forest River/Cardinal (I have a Cardinal) we as members of the online Cardinal Club are getting them to make some industry leading changes. All Cardinals now ship with wheels that are rated for LRG 16" tires and a factory option is now available to up grade tires from Marathon's to G614. I helped with the documentation and wright up that the head of the club took to a face to face with the manufacturer. Cardinal reps regularly attend the rallies that the club holds around the country so there is a close relationship.

I challenged the head tire guy at Keystone to take this lead and they did not! So now their will have to fall in line helpfully as Forest River INC leads the way.

Chris