tire ware

Reelay wrote:
"Orignal Poster Here" Thanks to everyones input be it bad or good. I didn't mean to be little L.S. I have have been buying tires from them well over 30 years and have an account that is still active, from buying trailer tires for our boat, quads, truck, ect. I currently have Toyo "Tuff Duty" tires on the truck and "Wild Countrys" on my wifes car. I just should of looked into more info on how to get quailty tires on our trailer. I am going to go to 16" tires and LT type grade. My trailer has plenty of room as it is lifted aup anyway. I have an adjustable after market first step at the doorway. I do live in Prineville and it is the headquaters, storage warehouses and employees many of our population. Great service and friendly people. Although since Les has passed away several years back and the people who run it now seem to have "Dropped the Ball a Little" compared to what it was when he started out just as a one man show, and then later when he was the CEO so I have been told a little before my time.
Sorry about the confusion about "Junk Tires" I am sure those tires I have are great on different apps but sounds as though I am border line between 15" and 16" so I will go 16" and LT. Thanks again everyone for your input....Ray

Good choice, you will really like how the tailer tows with better tires. For the money the Bridgestone Duavis R250 is one great trailer tire choice. I ran Ribs for 6.5 years and now R250's based on lower purchase price. Both have low rolling resistance due to steel ply carcasses. Chris

"Orignal Poster Here" Thanks to everyones input be it bad or good. I didn't mean to be little L.S. I have have been buying tires from them well over 30 years and have an account that is still active, from buying trailer tires for our boat, quads, truck, ect. I currently have Toyo "Tuff Duty" tires on the truck and "Wild Countrys" on my wifes car. I just should of looked into more info on how to get quailty tires on our trailer. I am going to go to 16" tires and LT type grade. My trailer has plenty of room as it is lifted aup anyway. I have an adjustable after market first step at the doorway. I do live in Prineville and it is the headquaters, storage warehouses and employees many of our population. Great service and friendly people. Although since Les has passed away several years back and the people who run it now seem to have "Dropped the Ball a Little" compared to what it was when he started out just as a one man show, and then later when he was the CEO so I have been told a little before my time.
Sorry about the confusion about "Junk Tires" I am sure those tires I have are great on different apps but sounds as though I am border line between 15" and 16" so I will go 16" and LT. Thanks again everyone for your input....Ray

OP wrote:
How many miles should you expect to get out of a set of tires on my 13k trailer? Currently I figure I have gotten about maybe 15k. traveling across the country from coast to coast and local outings. Never have rotated them which I never thought of doing but do on my truck and cars.

Its recommended ST tires be changed every 3-5 years. Trailer tires are next to each other in the center of a big heavy box and all the side scrubbing around corners wear evenly unless a bent axle or other suspension issues.
I've worn out lots of 15"/16"tires on my trailers in my business. Never rotated one nor did they need to be unless something got bent or worn.

I know brand and construction of tire is a biggie. I have on some junk tires {which I think they are} Called "Gladiator" ST 225/R15. Bought new at L.S. a big tire dealer/shop up here in the Northwest. Welcome any input, thanks in advance....

As you suspect the ST Gladiators isn't one of the better tires for a heavy road trailer. Their popular around here with with feed stores and small town tire dealers that offer a low cost tire.

Many folks come on the forum and complain about their ST tires (all brands) and are looking for the best replacement. Complaints range from sudden blow outs with lots trailer damage to tread loss or separation issues.

The most popular tire upgrade for a 13000 lb trailer is upgrading to 16" wheels and LT E tires. Your tires may be a ST225/75-15 D load range at 2540 lbs capacity and are 28.3" tall.
The LT225/75-16 E is 29.2" tall and has a 2680 lb rating.

If you have room the LT235/85-16 E at 3042 lbs at 31.5" tall will give you 12168 lb of capacity.

Francesca Knowles wrote:
Les Schwab doesn't sell "junk tires".

They have an excellent reputation all over the West, and your evidently satisfactory experience with the tires you bought from them should serve as proof of that in your case. I know that's true in our case...in over thirty years of buying tires from them for everything from wheelbarrows to farm equipment and everything in between, they've never sold us any tire that wasn't equal to or beyond the use for which we bought it....nor have they EVER attempted to sell us tires if the ones we were contemplating replacing still had serviceable life left.

The load range "E" Gladiators you have on are one of their house brands, manufactured to their specifications. We run the same on our goosenecks, and my brother has a set on his (big) recreational fiver. None of us have had any trouble whatsoever with them.

Before you get all shook up/determined to change to something other than what your fiver maker specified, I suggest you stop in and talk to Les Schwab about what if anything to do about the tires you have.

The best way to cut through the noise/opinions one gets from internet forums is to go to someone that knows and has a stake in the subject at hand.

That is your opinion, my opinion is they sell overpriced JUNK!

They are also great at trying to sell items not needed.

But if having someone up your backside from the time you pull into their parking lot then they are for you.

Discount Tire or Costco are less expensive and have by far better quality tires.

I get about 40,000 miles, or 7 years, from my non-Chinese ST tires on average.

Francesca Knowles wrote:


Tell those words of wisdom to the members of this forum that have posted their actual experiences with the warranty question.

Link us to a post where someone was denied warranty coverage! I gave a real world report of coverage.

While you are at it why don't you remind us again about your experience with tires on 5th wheels, number of years, miles and states you have towed in. By the way Lostinaz ended up with Bridgestone Duravis R250 LT's from Costco in Mesa, Az.

Chris

Me Again wrote:
You have most likely already exceeded the life cycle of your tires(mileage). Save your money for an upgrade to 16" rims and some LT tires, and don't look back!

ST tires is one dirty little secret! 15" tires on a 32 footer is a second manufacturer's dirty little secret!

Chris

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Me Again wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:


Another word to the O.P.:
Do look into any lack-of-warranty issues that will likely arise if you decide to change your tire-type. Many if not all LT's sold to/for trailer users carry no warranty whatsoever due to that being an "off-label" use.

More internet bs!

The Rear Commodore weighs in...

Tell those words of wisdom to the members of this forum that have posted their actual experiences with the warranty question. For example, in my mind there's no reason to suspect the O.P. in this thread is lying in that regard.

But if in your opinion that member was lying, why didn't you call him on it in the thread? Or were you just there to give a hard time to a certain member you seem to have a fixation on?

Francesca Knowles wrote:


Another word to the O.P.:
Do look into any lack-of-warranty issues that will likely arise if you decide to change your tire-type. Many if not all LT's sold to/for trailer users carry no warranty whatsoever due to that being an "off-label" use.

More internet bs!

The head of our Cardinal Club replace the OEM GY Marathons with BFG Commercial TA right after delivery in 2010. This spring on I-10 one of the non recall TA's failed with trailer damage. Michelin/BFG replaced the tire and paid for the trailer damage. A Discount Tire store in Mesa, Az handled the whole thing sending the failed tire to BFG. He said was like a police investigation. They even checked the air pressure in the three remaining tires as part of the report to BFG.

Set you keyboard aside and get out and find out what it really happening, not FE scare marketing.

Chris

B.O. Plenty wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:
Les Schwab doesn't sell "junk tires".

What a crock..like they aren't in business to make money like anyone else..Junk is junk..Go buy some real tires from an American tire company not some private label Chinese crap..

B.O.

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What Les Schwab sells is customer service, which is very good! Their Toyo Tires are OK name brand products. However their other tires are contract relabels. Their trailer tires are no better or worse than the other junk ST tires on the market today.

They are limited to West Coast states. Discount / National Tire has wider selection of name brand product.

I have heard the marketing hype about this ST is great and we do not have problems with it many times.

The one the other day from the oil fields may be the first exception. Can't remember the product name.

Chris