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GregK
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Nov 12, 2013

Tow Vehicle research

Although we're having our 2010 Eagle 351RLSA delivered and set up at our seasonal site I'm starting to consider buying a truck capable of pulling it.

I have never owned any HD model truck and I'm so sticker shocked at the new trucks, especially once you "build" a tow package!

I've started considering buying used but have no idea where to start. I see 2011 models with what I would consider insanely high mileage but the lower mileage trucks aren't exactly a great deal either. I currently have a 2011 Nissan Titan that I own outright and it's loaded with goodies so a private sale on it should get me some decent cash.

The trailer weight specs (to save you from looking them up) are:

Dry Weight (lbs/kg) 11050 / 5012.3
Payload Capacity (lbs/kgs) 3900 / 1769
GVWR (lbs/kgs) 14950 / 6781.3
Hitch Weight (lbs/kgs) 2560 / 1161.2

I'm not a Ford fan by any means and I've heard the Powerstroke diesel is the weakest of what's available out there, but it's only what I've heard here and there.

It's time to ask those that have HD trucks and actually use them as trucks what your experiences have taught you, good and bad. I also want to use the truck for general purpose, family driving and the like.

I'm ready to absorb it all, so let's hear it.
  • check with your insurance agent and state requirements to be sure you don't get stuck in a commercial class with a 450/550 etc.
    bumpy
  • I would also suggest a 350/3500 in what ever model you choose as well. Any of the Big 3 have a truck that will do the job. I take it by saying "Powerstroke" that you are looking at diesels? I would strongly suggest one for that weight, especially if you are going to tow quite often. I would not say that the Ford is the weakest one out there. All 3 have their little flaws. Ford just produced its 500,000th 6.7L this week.If you are talking about the 6.4L Ford, it has its flaws as well with less than average fuel economy and EGR system but by no means is 'weak'. Dodge now has a world class transmission behind its Cummins now that people are really enjoying. GM has the Duramax/Allison which is a great truck too. My advice is, if looking used, is to go to the dealer of each and test drive each of the trucks you are thinking about. Go online to all of the forums where these guys/gals hang out and you will learn LOTS about the trucks. Both good and bad. Dealers in your area is bound to have a used diesel truck in each of the Big 3 on the lot. Go drive them and get familiar with each. Good luck in your search. I hope you find the 'truck' that suits you well!
  • With those weights you will want a 1ton (350/3500). With a GVWR of 14950 expect a pin weight of 3700lbs. Yes it could be less but it's easier to plan for the max than worry about it later.

    Most of the new 1ton pickups have payload capacities of 4000lbs or more. You will want to plan for 3700lbs of pin weight plus any cargo and passenger weight inside of the truck. I would say a payload rating of 4500lbs and up should get you to where you would want to be.

    Which brings me to - do you want a dual rear wheel pickup or not? While you will most likely be able to get by with a single rear wheel setup the "dually" or "DRW" will offer better stability while towing and even greater payload ratings. However they are not the best for "around town" driving.

    Best of luck to you.
  • Bought my Powerstroke new in 2005 with the 6.0 diesel. I expected the worst but as yet have had zero problems with the truck. It is completely stock, tows wonderfully, and is all that I hoped for.

    Yes, this truck has a bad reputation but I have also noticed that many people who remind you of a truck's problems are the people who stand to make a nice profit at the expense of the truck owners. But it is true that Navistar and Ford had a pretty bad relationship when this truck was made.