Towing heavy with 3/4 Ton... How Many Know......

I try very hard to never overload my truck. With my pin weight, I have enough remaining payload with my 1 ton SRW to be full of fuel and passengers and be below the GVWR.

I would buy any trailer that would overload my truck's GVWR when empty. If you were to have a crash, the legal and other consequences are not worth the risk. There are a ton of nice 24-28' 5th wheels I could pull if I had a 3/4 ton truck.

My next truck will likely be a dually just to eliminate this issue from consideration at all for any trailer I'd ever consider buying. I don't drive my truck empty very much so it'd be fine. The new SRW trucks do offer higher GVWR in a 1 ton though, so it'd be a tough choice. In 2005, it wasn't a tough choice; the 3/4 ton trucks hardly have enough payload to fill the cab with passengers (1600 pounds?!). By the time you install the hitch, there isn't enough GVWR left for pin weight. The GVWRs of trucks should have increased as the empty weight of trucks increased, but they didn't.

What I've learned recently is a lot of this is just the legal categories these trucks have to meet. It's really a shame; we could have had SRW trucks with 12k GVWRs a long time ago and 1 ton duallies with 15k even with normal 16, 17, and 18" tires. It's not like the powertrains and frames aren't strong enough for that. There's an ever increasing push for more horsepower, more torque, and higher GCWR, but it does us no good if we bust the GVWR first.

DRW here but the same applies. Simply put i cannot load to my RAWR and NOT be over my GVWR. YES i am over by 130#, normally I am right on 9,750# RAWR. Pay for extra tonnage and you are good to go!

romore wrote:
I think you are mistaking GVWR for the gross combination weight which is probably closer to 11,000#. A fiver weighing 10,500# is going to put approximately 2100# on the pin which is a bigger concern with a 2500.

OPs 2001 2500 has a 8800# GVWR

With 5vr hitched (pin weight)...he scaled at 10,500# GVW
BUT did NOT exceed RAWR

GCVWR is probably closer to 20K range

HE was NOT mixing numbers up....believe me he knows what's what with ratings

:B

romore wrote:
I think you are mistaking GVWR for the gross combination weight which is probably closer to 11,000#. A fiver weighing 10,500# is going to put approximately 2100# on the pin which is a bigger concern with a 2500.

No confusion.
With my 2500 I towed a 5er with a GVW of 12,700#, my TV weighed 7,800# ready to tow my GCVW was 20,500#.

Very few actually weigh ONCE let alone repeat weighing

IF they even lookup any info it is probably 'published tow ratings'

"Says right there I can tow 25,000#"

I think you are mistaking GVWR for the gross combination weight which is probably closer to 11,000#. A fiver weighing 10,500# is going to put approximately 2100# on the pin which is a bigger concern with a 2500.