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- IdaDExplorer
toedtoes wrote:
WTP-GC wrote:
The first step in resolving this matter is to accept that animals are not humans. To equate an animal (regardless of species) with a human is absurdity. That silly ape that got shot has a lot of people riled up, and for all the wrong reasons.
Remember:
Animal DOES NOT equal human
People might not put their dog or cat in the trailer, but if they only knew that they were accidentally transporting a stow-away mouse. Oh the horror. But what's the difference?
Not sure what this has to do with the question. Many people who don't treat their dogs like humans won't transport them in a trailer. Many people who do treat their dogs like humans will transport them in a trailer.
I'll also add that many people do not see "Animal DOES NOT equal human" as "Animal is LESS IMPORTANT than human". For me, my animals are just as important as the people in my life - not because I think of them as human, but because I accepted the responsibility for them and that responsibility is just as binding as the responsibility I bear for my family.
That's an interesting perspective. I've always had dogs and I love them, but the notion that I'd put a dog at the same level of importance as my kids is just ludicrous as far as I'm concerned. It's not even comparable. - toedtoesExplorer III
WTP-GC wrote:
The first step in resolving this matter is to accept that animals are not humans. To equate an animal (regardless of species) with a human is absurdity. That silly ape that got shot has a lot of people riled up, and for all the wrong reasons.
Remember:
Animal DOES NOT equal human
People might not put their dog or cat in the trailer, but if they only knew that they were accidentally transporting a stow-away mouse. Oh the horror. But what's the difference?
Not sure what this has to do with the question. Many people who don't treat their dogs like humans won't transport them in a trailer. Many people who do treat their dogs like humans will transport them in a trailer.
I'll also add that many people do not see "Animal DOES NOT equal human" as "Animal is LESS IMPORTANT than human". For me, my animals are just as important as the people in my life - not because I think of them as human, but because I accepted the responsibility for them and that responsibility is just as binding as the responsibility I bear for my family. - avvidclif1Explorer
WTP-GC wrote:
The first step in resolving this matter is to accept that animals are not humans. To equate an animal (regardless of species) with a human is absurdity. That silly ape that got shot has a lot of people riled up, and for all the wrong reasons.
Remember:
Animal DOES NOT equal human
That's your viewpoint and not everyone agrees with you. - WTP-GCExplorerThe first step in resolving this matter is to accept that animals are not humans. To equate an animal (regardless of species) with a human is absurdity. That silly ape that got shot has a lot of people riled up, and for all the wrong reasons.
Remember:
Animal DOES NOT equal human
People might not put their dog or cat in the trailer, but if they only knew that they were accidentally transporting a stow-away mouse. Oh the horror. But what's the difference? - Tal_ILExplorer"Trained dog" is pretty charitable for my GWP. "Marginally under control" might be more accurate. And she does think she is a 70 pound lap dog.
But you are correct, she is accustomed to being in a crate. Her crate has been in the corner of the kitchen since she was a pup and it is her space. I would not transport her without her crate. - rockhillmanorExplorer II
Tal/IL wrote:
I believe the OP referenced his 5th wheel. We have a Class A. But, I have hauled bird dogs and retrievers all over several states in truck bed dog boxes and dog trailers with no issues. I'm sure a crate inside a 5th wheel would be fine.
You are talking about "trained dogs that you hunt with".
Your hunting dogs are born, raised, trained and exposed to traveling as such from the day they hit the ground running! :W
The poor pampered "house pet" that only knows the comforts of a couch inside the house and perhaps a trip or two in the lap of its owner in a car........will absolutely freak out being thrown in an empty new to them strange trailer. Furniture in the TT or not it will be a very stressful situation for them.
Training and exposing dogs to a way of travel is one thing. Just taking a house pet and throwing them alone for hours in what 'to them' is a big scary box on wheels bouncing down the road certainly is just not something that should be done.
If one is bound and determined to do so at least do it the more humane way and put the dog IN a crate in the TT and drive around the block. Bring it back and assure the dog evertthing is ok. Then do this for a week or so and then increase the distance a little bit each day.
At least the dog will know that you WILL come back for them. Just throwing the dog in and going on a long trip the dog has no idea what is happening to him and or that you will ever return for him.
They are not humans their thought process is way different than ours. - Tal_ILExplorerI believe the OP referenced his 5th wheel. We have a Class A. But, I have hauled bird dogs and retrievers all over several states in truck bed dog boxes and dog trailers with no issues. I'm sure a crate inside a 5th wheel would be fine.
- avvidclif1Explorer
Tal/IL wrote:
I see nothing wrong with transporting a dog in the 5th wheel. I would not let the dog roam free inside the 5th wheel, but would place the animal in a crate with proper bedding.
What kind of a 5th wheel is that you're using? Could be it biased your answer? - rockhillmanorExplorer IINo, no and no.
You stop fast or turn and the pet goes flying into furniture and walls.
You won't know if he has to make a rest stop. Results of that is not a pretty sight or if he gets sick.
And to just throw a pet in an empty trailer bouncy down the road is a scary experience for a pet and pretty much close to inhumane.IMHO, JMHO just saying. - aguablancoExplorer
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Where would YOU preferred to be ....in truck or in 5th wheel?
In a truck with a much better/more attentive driver.
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