Tread Separation on Maxxis M8008
Has anyone experienced tread separation on Maxxis M8008 tires? I bought 4 of them in 2010 and just replaced 2 this past weekend do to separation. I am concerned because the 2 tires in question were ...
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Barry,
I always read your replies, and am glad that you hang out here on the forum to help shed some light on, and bring a level of expertise to the discussion. So again, thanks for your comments.
Having said that, your suggestion of "returning the tire to the manufacturer"....to be honest, I am not feeling real compelled here. First of all, the consumer is literally doing the beta testing here for both the tire company and the trailer designer who sometimes underspecs the tire for the application. Then mister consumer has a failure, takes it to the dealer and asks them to send it back to the manufacturer. I suspect most busy tire stores are simply going to nod their head, and after the customer leaves, toss the failed tire on the recycle pile, and that's the end of that.
For most average consumers, they are just going to replace the tire, and get on with their life. The dealer has little incentive to see this line of tires improve. He's making money on the idea of having to toss these tires after three or so years ( if they make it that far ) or he is making money by replacing failed tires.
My opinion is these tires are going to continue to be produced at whatever quality level they are currently at. Reason is, there is always a certain demand for the least expensive product to purchase. It's always been that way. Remember back in the day in the Sears and Monkey Wards catalog, there was often a "good, better, best" in a product line.
The price point of these ST tires is really not that much less than a similar sized LT tire. To bring the ST up to a better level would likely make it's price point cross over into the same retail territory as the LT. At that point, the ST would no longer hold ANY advantage in real retail terms.
Personally I vote with my feet and wallet. Anybody that tries to sell me a ST tire, I walk.....and go to someone who will take my dollars for a LT. I literally did just that some months ago. A local trailer dealer where I had bought a equipment trailer only sells china ST tires. I needed a set of tires for one of the horse trailers, so I ended up at a Firestone retailer to buy LT.
But again, there will always be someone to buy cheap tires. We see it all the time even here on this forum, someone will come on and be discussing a tire that retails for $20 less, and will state that is why they bought it. As I have said before, many folks either don't understand, or won't admit the difference between cost and value. Wally world is making a fortune selling us disposable products that cost little but often have even less value.
respectfully submitted..... gw
I always read your replies, and am glad that you hang out here on the forum to help shed some light on, and bring a level of expertise to the discussion. So again, thanks for your comments.
Having said that, your suggestion of "returning the tire to the manufacturer"....to be honest, I am not feeling real compelled here. First of all, the consumer is literally doing the beta testing here for both the tire company and the trailer designer who sometimes underspecs the tire for the application. Then mister consumer has a failure, takes it to the dealer and asks them to send it back to the manufacturer. I suspect most busy tire stores are simply going to nod their head, and after the customer leaves, toss the failed tire on the recycle pile, and that's the end of that.
For most average consumers, they are just going to replace the tire, and get on with their life. The dealer has little incentive to see this line of tires improve. He's making money on the idea of having to toss these tires after three or so years ( if they make it that far ) or he is making money by replacing failed tires.
My opinion is these tires are going to continue to be produced at whatever quality level they are currently at. Reason is, there is always a certain demand for the least expensive product to purchase. It's always been that way. Remember back in the day in the Sears and Monkey Wards catalog, there was often a "good, better, best" in a product line.
The price point of these ST tires is really not that much less than a similar sized LT tire. To bring the ST up to a better level would likely make it's price point cross over into the same retail territory as the LT. At that point, the ST would no longer hold ANY advantage in real retail terms.
Personally I vote with my feet and wallet. Anybody that tries to sell me a ST tire, I walk.....and go to someone who will take my dollars for a LT. I literally did just that some months ago. A local trailer dealer where I had bought a equipment trailer only sells china ST tires. I needed a set of tires for one of the horse trailers, so I ended up at a Firestone retailer to buy LT.
But again, there will always be someone to buy cheap tires. We see it all the time even here on this forum, someone will come on and be discussing a tire that retails for $20 less, and will state that is why they bought it. As I have said before, many folks either don't understand, or won't admit the difference between cost and value. Wally world is making a fortune selling us disposable products that cost little but often have even less value.
respectfully submitted..... gw
