Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Bill.Satellite wrote:
That's what I mentioned in an earlier post. That's how our RV is setup but, of course, there is a back splash behind and not cabinets or shelves. I can't imagine how your current setup would work. We also have a longer counter to work with, a narrow 2 burner gas cooktop and no counter on the other side providing better work space. On the opposite side we have a 2 seat bar setup against the wall for dining (big window with a nice view) and the fridge. Small work triangle and plenty of space for prep. You don't need a dish rack for drying. Clean as you go and then the after dinner dishes for 2 people is easy enough to wash and dry right out of the sink or set on a dish towel beside the sink.

We typically also use a dish towel for drying, since we don't have a lot of dishes at one time to wash either.

Worst case scenario for the back splash is to use one that is just temporary while the sink is in use. I plan on using the stove cover as a back splash when using the stove, which can be hinged at the back of the stove, similar to many stoves which come with a cover.

nohurry wrote:
Well, when I cook I like to have room next to the stove for ingredients, utensils etc. and I would think you would want room next to the sink for dish drain rack etc.

I don’t know if this applies to you and your wife, but what if you were cooking something and she was using the sink at the same time? Would you be bumping into each other with either setup?

No right or wrong answer, just what works for you two, but when in doubt, keep SWMBO happy. ;)

nohurry wrote:
Just thought of this as well; how will cutting two holes, and having the weight of a sink full of water, and the stove with pans etc. affect the counter? Might have to do a little more support underneath?

Are there going to be cabinets underneath?

Generally speaking, the only thing we use the counter on the right side of the stove for is to hold our spoon/spatula holder, or when done cooking, "maybe" set the pot over there, on a "hot pad" of some type to protect the counter, but that's about it.

Usually, we'll use the counter to the left of the stove for anything else we would need to add to the pot or pan.

As far as cooking and using the sink at the same time, that would be a rarity for us. It's either cooking or washing, one at a time, not at the same time.

"Sink full of water"? Not a chance. Perhaps a gallon or two at the most. I don't think weight would be a problem but there will be some support underneath the counter top, and a couple of either doors or drawers, so there will be frame rails underneath the front of the counter, and the back is already supported by plywood on the bottom which is screwed to the wall.

We should be good on weight, but those are good questions. Thanks.

Also, where is that fridge going? I remember there was a drawing awhile back but I can't remember. Seems it was going to be in the back room or somewhere to avoid a vent out the roof.

In the S&B, the sink and the cooktop are opposite each other. In the MH, the sink and stove are on opposite ends of the same counter. Both configurations work just fine. I would move the sink about 6" or so closer to the wall. You don't really need the space between the sink and the wall and the added room between the sink and cooktop would be more useful.
BTW, where are you going to put the trash bin? We have found that having the trash bin directly below the prep area is very convenient. A lot less messy to just scrape the scraps into the trash than to pick them up and carry them to another location.

That's what I mentioned in an earlier post. That's how our RV is setup but, of course, there is a back splash behind and not cabinets or shelves. I can't imagine how your current setup would work. We also have a longer counter to work with, a narrow 2 burner gas cooktop and no counter on the other side providing better work space. On the opposite side we have a 2 seat bar setup against the wall for dining (big window with a nice view) and the fridge. Small work triangle and plenty of space for prep. You don't need a dish rack for drying. Clean as you go and then the after dinner dishes for 2 people is easy enough to wash and dry right out of the sink or set on a dish towel beside the sink.

Just thought of this as well; how will cutting two holes, and having the weight of a sink full of water, and the stove with pans etc. affect the counter? Might have to do a little more support underneath?

Are there going to be cabinets underneath?

Well, when I cook I like to have room next to the stove for ingredients, utensils etc. and I would think you would want room next to the sink for dish drain rack etc.

I don’t know if this applies to you and your wife, but what if you were cooking something and she was using the sink at the same time? Would you be bumping into each other with either setup?

No right or wrong answer, just what works for you two, but when in doubt, keep SWMBO happy. ;)

Q and A time, folks.

The wife threw a monkey wrench into my plans today. She suggested possibly, putting both the sink and the stove top on the same side. This would be on the drivers side, with the sink on the left, closest to the shower wall, to help shorten the plumbing runs.

That would allow the other side completely clear, which would amount to just a touch over 6 feet of free counter space, instead of 42 inches free on each side.

Give me some pro's and con's of doing it either way. Some one probably has thought of something we haven't.

Sink indicated on the left by a piece of plywood.









What do you think?

Here's another shot of some black walnut that has 2 different finishes on it. This just has more coats than it did last time I posted it.

The top half has been coated with Lacquer, and the lower portion has Por 15, Clear, on it.

The bottom part was darker to start with, and you can see that on the upper portion towards the right. This is actually the same board, with a section in the center about 2" with no coating.

PastorCharlie wrote:
I would think there would be more concern with what the black walnut is treated with than the walnut itself. Some finishes will off gas and are very flammable.

I would think it would be a little tough to light up a counter top just from off gassing.

Then again, I suppose stranger things have happened. I've used a lot of Lacquer over the years, and fortunately never had a problem, and never want to.

Some of the inside will get Lacquer, but it probably won't be all at once.