Anyone traveling yet

This discussion/argument has gone on in an untold number of threads, and neither side is going to convince the other to change.

There's one side that is unwilling to venture outside of home unless absolutely necessary and don't want to open up anything until the virus is eradicated and there is a vaccine. Regardless of what we learn along the way that might enlighten people and should cause some to rethink.

Then there's the group that looks at things a little more objectively, and don't apply a one size fits all solution. It's not that folks on this side don't care, or don't have any concerns, it's just that you can't freeze everything in time and hide inside until this thing goes away.

It's pretty telling when over half of the deaths occur in the highest population areas, despite the direction to stay at home. 5000 deaths alone based on a decision to direct assisted living homes that they must, by law, admit COVID patients. Talk about criminal!

For those of you who feel that the only way people on the other side will believe is if something happens to someone close to them, well, I view that as lashing out because we don't agree with you. It has nothing to do with whether or not we believe this virus is real, but again, there's not a one size fits all approach.

No one yet has made a single convincing argument about why it's dangerous or selfish to go camping in a state park that is open, and more than ample space to exceed all social distancing requirements. The argument about contact along the way is a ridiculous one, especially when you can make it to your destination on one tank of fuel. And I am quite sure the same people who don't want to go anywhere do fuel up locally (although clearly not as much.

In the end, each side is right in their mind, and each one is wrong in the others mind.

Mike

We are being cautious now that things are starting to open we are heading out of az and heading north

jarata1 wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

JC2 wrote:
Wonder how many of the naysayers/non-believers would be willing to take their family camping in NY, GA, CA and other high risk areas. :R

I would have no problem with it!

sometimes not even worth arguing

I know what you mean!

I am a 25 year Law Enforcement veteran and none of us at my 138+ sworn member agency are wearing masks while on duty.

While I truly appreciate your service, if you decided to approach me you would be hard-pressed to get me to interact. I would not appreciate your lack of care for my well-being.

Dave

We did a trip last week from Minnesota to Indiana to make the purchase of our new-to-us Tiffin Allegro Open Road. Stayed at KOA's in Illinois and Indiana with no problem since we were from out of state. No concerns or issues--so nice to have light traffic in Chicago! I am a 25 year Law Enforcement veteran and none of us at my 138+ sworn member agency are wearing masks while on duty. Just using common sense and practicing good hygiene like we all probably should during the flu season every year.

How many naysayers are willing to lose their loved ones? It probably not you that will get it, but someone close to you. For some, that is what it will take to understand. They can't even read history and understand. Their minds can't wrap around it as they have never been inconvenienced in their lives. It very sad.

dodge guy wrote:

JC2 wrote:
Wonder how many of the naysayers/non-believers would be willing to take their family camping in NY, GA, CA and other high risk areas. :R

I would have no problem with it!

sometimes not even worth arguing

Yep. Travelled twice. Took the RV to the dealer for a free systems inspection and state inspection, then drove her home. Then we took her back for a failing bearing and a recall fix.

That's about as exciting as RV travel has gotten lately...

If one leaves the city, and heads out camping, while maintaining social distancing requirements, are you helping your fellow city citizens?

Seems to me answer is yes

Mike

azdryheat wrote:
NY Gov Cuomo was just on the news saying, of the recent covid hospitalizations in his state, 66% of the patients came from home while 18% came from nursing homes. My math says that works out to 84% of patients have been in "lock down". Seems to me that staying home, as everyone is telling us to do, is the leading cause of contracting the covid virus. Maybe the CDC doesn't know every thing.

If you don't want to go outside then don't. But don't get on me and others for our decision to go camping and venture outside, to live our lives. It's still a free country despite what some what us to believe.

Maybe, but states and cities have the superior right to protect the lives and health of their citizens.

And the citizens have the rights to protect themselves from you. -- specially if you are violating their state and city's regulations meant to protect them.