Build quality gas vs DP

nevadanick wrote:
My belief is that with quality comes weight and the gas chassis mh's are not yet up to that sort of weight carrying.

See, everyone overlooks the weight of a quality built diesel coach. If you loaded up a gasser with that much weight you would probably have zero carrying capacity. I have had both. Could not afford a diesel for many years. Was quite happy with what I had, knowing I would upgrade someday. Did it and will never go back!

Just for comparison, my brother bought a new 2014 Tiffin RED in summer of '14. He has had no issue with the furniture or paint. He has had a couple of adjustments on a few things but nothing earth shattering (like all motorhomes).

MM.

I think the Rexhall line has as good build quality as most DP

Dezolen - I was quite clear in my post saying that I did not know much about Tiffin Reds and that I was only posting the experience of the one instance I have first hand experience with.

My friend is thin and 75 years old. His wife is mid size. Nether are over 175 lbs. The Upholstery fabric was defective. In the case of the exterior, my comment was only repeating what he said to me last spring when we were parked next to each other at a rally. His comment, "Why does your 12 year old coach's paint look better than my one year old coach?"

My comment on Tiffin was not my subjective opinion at all. I stated what happened to my friend on his furniture. And I reported what he said to me about the paint.

A lot depends on how much you use your MH (assuming you don't have throw away money). If you have a tight budget or if you only plan to use your coach a few times a year or a few weeks to a couple months, there are gassers at a much lower cost that come very well equipped with many of the same features as a DP, BUT, the interior finish quality is usually lower than a typical DP. I am on my second gasser and they have suited my needs very well. But we only use it for several trips each year. If I were a full timer or spent a lot of time in my MH, then a DP would be my preference. However, as others have pointed out there isn't a huge build quality difference between a higher end gasser vs a lower cost DP. I do my own maintenance and the V10 chassis is very easy to take care of. And my 38' gasser has lots of room and is very liveable. But when we visit folks in their high end DPs I really like their interior quality. So you pay for you want and really need. No one choice fits everyone.

dezolen wrote:
You really are not telling us much about your friend and his Tiffin. Our's is almost 3 years old, same upholstery and still like new.
Perhaps your friend is 300#(not saying he is as I have no idea)Perhaps he has little kids that climb all over the upholstery with their shoes on. Perhaps it is out in 100 degree heat(No idea) To little info to draw any conclusions which you seem to have done already without knowing all the facts.

Not necessarily true that kids or pets might have caused this particular coach to come out bad. I have also mentioned a friend of mine that bought a Dutch Star by Newmar in 2003 and it was a piece of trash. So what I am trying to say is that you can get a bad coach with any company. They might have a good reputation overall, but every once in a while a bad one will come out. Maybe that is what happened to that Tiffin Red. Who knows! But I am sure this gentleman would not fabricate something up.

You really are not telling us much about your friend and his Tiffin. Our's is almost 3 years old, same upholstery and still like new.
Perhaps your friend is 300#(not saying he is as I have no idea)Perhaps he has little kids that climb all over the upholstery with their shoes on. Perhaps it is out in 100 degree heat(No idea) To little info to draw any conclusions which you seem to have done already without knowing all the facts.

JCGibson - One of my closest RV friends bought a brand new Allegra Red 1 1/2 years ago. After one year his fake leather upholstery started coming apart at the seems. Plus the fake leather started flaking. He had to have it all replaced.

How is this high quality?

My coach is 14 years old and our real leather upholstery is just fine.

After 1 1/2 years my friends coach exterior after being washed does not look as good as my 14 year old coach. How is this high quality.

I really know very little about Tiffin Allergro Reds other than my friends experience. But from what I have seen the coach he bought is not all that high a quality. Maybe it is just his coach, but I am only talking about his rig.

-Gramps- wrote:
There are other little differences to go along with solid core doors...like 100k or more. The main difference between Most diesel coaches and gassers is one thing...the engine. Allegro open Road Diesel, Allegro Open Road Gasser, for example. Very much the same coach as far as quality is concerned. Don't make the mistake of expecting a lot of high end stuff in a coach just because it has a diesel engine...you have to pay more, a lot more, to get the luxury extras...an Entegra for example can cost up to 700 thousand dollars. Beautiful coach but that beauty don't come cheap!

I have to disagree with the only difference in an Allegro RED and Allegro Open Road is the engine. Build quality is similar (both excellent), however there are many differences that justify the cost. Better towing capacity (with 360HP/3000 Allison), storage capacity inside and out, air ride, air brakes, exhaust brake, fuel mileage, larger fuel tank, larger water/waste tanks, better seating surfaces (vinyl vs leather), better flooring and it goes on. We purchased our 2016 Tiffin Open Road 36LA Jun 2015 and it was great (except for ride/handling) until we drove a 2016 Tiffin Allegro RED 37PA. Most of the time you get what you pay for.

There are other little differences to go along with solid core doors...like 100k or more. The main difference between Most diesel coaches and gassers is one thing...the engine. Allegro open Road Diesel, Allegro Open Road Gasser, for example. Very much the same coach as far as quality is concerned. Don't make the mistake of expecting a lot of high end stuff in a coach just because it has a diesel engine...you have to pay more, a lot more, to get the luxury extras...an Entegra for example can cost up to 700 thousand dollars. Beautiful coach but that beauty don't come cheap!