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SunSeeker2
Explorer
Jul 10, 2018

C7 surge tank cap will not disengage

While traveling to our campsite the "low coolant" msg came on our 2006 Tiffin Phaeton 35DH (caterpillar C7). Waited till next morning to check the cooling system level on the surge tank; and it needed to be topped up. Went to remove the filler cap; turned it counter clockwise, the cap loosened as advertised; but would not disengage and come off. Spoke with Freightliner tech rep through Tiffin customer service line and was told this can be an issue. Was told to find the " sweet spot" and wiggle it free. I've removed enough radiator caps to know that the sweet spot on this cap has no desire to release itself. Any thoughts or experiences out there for me my good people!

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  • SunSeeker2 wrote:
    IvyLog; After reading your advice about pushing down HARD; I realized I needed to get higher up than just standing at ground level. Got a small step ladder and "took the high ground" in order to push down on the cap. We have lift off! Thanks so much; its not about strength; its about leverage! Thanks to you all for your inputs; I've also have decided to replace this plastic surge tank with a metal one in the very near future.


    Glad you got it off. But, getting a metal replacement tank for that particular design is all but impossible. Now, before someone gets their panties in a wad, I'm speaking of the rectangular tank that normally sits on the right side upper, just above the radiator. Most coaches have really tight clearance for those tanks. Obviously this is for rear radiator design. For this SPECIFIC design, I've seen only ONE metal tank replacement and, it was a prototype, not a production replacement tank.

    Sunseeker, If your tank is not cracked, no spidering, no seeping, no obvious signs of potential failure, then don't replace it 'till you seem some of those signs. You're looking at about $130 - $140 replacement cost. I agree on preventative maintenance but, to toss a tank that's still got life in it, well, your choice.
    Scott
  • IvyLog; After reading your advice about pushing down HARD; I realized I needed to get higher up than just standing at ground level. Got a small step ladder and "took the high ground" in order to push down on the cap. We have lift off! Thanks so much; its not about strength; its about leverage! Thanks to you all for your inputs; I've also have decided to replace this plastic surge tank with a metal one in the very near future.
  • Ivylog's avatar
    Ivylog
    Explorer III
    Push down HARD on the cap as you turn because the second detent is not sloped...will not help pull the cap down.
  • I have a C7 too..

    My only thought is to replace the tank as many say the tanks fail around the ten year mark.

    It’s on my list for my next service whipping.