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j-d
Feb 26, 2018Explorer II
Like Ron, I spent time looking at details on most of the units you listed. Before I render my Free Opinions (worth what you paid for them) I must say: Floor Plan Rules! The "accommodation" has to work for you. One area I didn't pay much attention to as I looked at brochures/webpages was Exterior Storage. Since a slide usually pre-empts storage along that part of the wall, consider carefully. Not just the Cubic Feet that's often specified, but the Shape of things you can store. For example, we have a number of compartments adding up to about 100 cubic feet, but none can accommodate a 5-gallon paint bucket or a BBQ grille. Nor the popular Zero Gravity chairs.
Some of my Likes: Actual OVEN, a Pantry, a DSI/Electic Water Heater, NOT a Tankless Water Heater, Fiberglass Cap, Fiberglass Roof, Enhanced Ride
Winnebago Models, unless you don't like the floorplan. Of those, I like 31C.
Get a look at the Wheelbase. I think 223" is the longest that Ford allows E450 to be stretched. Ours is 218" which loads both axles to capacity. Since newer E450's have higher front axle ratings, 223" would take advantage of that.
Try to get a look, or ask for a cellphone picture, of the Weight Label that lives inside the door of some cabinet. That'll give you an idea if you can carry enough People and Stuff weight for your needs.
This is my personal ranking of the ones you listed
Entegra Esteem - All the bells and whistles, the Cap, the Roof, the Ride, the Oven, Water Heater,
Jayco Greyhawk - A little less flash, but above applies. I would not worry about Thor cheapening the Jayco models, at least for now. Thor owns Airstream now and complaints don't seem to be forthcoming. For both of above I'd consider the dual A/C option.
Jamboree - IF we can confirm Fiberglass Roof. I could NOT
Forester - Some claim they're cheaply made, yet they have a very loyal and seemingly satisfied following, AZDEL is a Plus
Thor Quantum - NOPE, rubber roof
Coachmen - NOPE, rubber roof, and I see more complaints about Thor/Coachmen rigs than most others, too bad, AZDEL is a Plus
Our Jayco is an artifact. Newer ones are done differently than our entry level Escapade model they tried to target at rentals. Discontinued storage design with very shallow compartments. Rubber roof and non-fiberglass cap. Both of these have caused problems. Still, No cabinets have fallen apart, no wiring or plumbing problems, no underpinning problems, Dinette solidly in place. Has Oven and DSI/electric water heater. Cockpit seats durable and comfortable.
I don't blame you for going "long" as we travel as a couple and appreciate the room. No slides, so not as much room as 31-feet suggests.
So there it is. Consider what you paid for these opinions.
Some of my Likes: Actual OVEN, a Pantry, a DSI/Electic Water Heater, NOT a Tankless Water Heater, Fiberglass Cap, Fiberglass Roof, Enhanced Ride
Winnebago Models, unless you don't like the floorplan. Of those, I like 31C.
Get a look at the Wheelbase. I think 223" is the longest that Ford allows E450 to be stretched. Ours is 218" which loads both axles to capacity. Since newer E450's have higher front axle ratings, 223" would take advantage of that.
Try to get a look, or ask for a cellphone picture, of the Weight Label that lives inside the door of some cabinet. That'll give you an idea if you can carry enough People and Stuff weight for your needs.
This is my personal ranking of the ones you listed
Entegra Esteem - All the bells and whistles, the Cap, the Roof, the Ride, the Oven, Water Heater,
Jayco Greyhawk - A little less flash, but above applies. I would not worry about Thor cheapening the Jayco models, at least for now. Thor owns Airstream now and complaints don't seem to be forthcoming. For both of above I'd consider the dual A/C option.
Jamboree - IF we can confirm Fiberglass Roof. I could NOT
Forester - Some claim they're cheaply made, yet they have a very loyal and seemingly satisfied following, AZDEL is a Plus
Thor Quantum - NOPE, rubber roof
Coachmen - NOPE, rubber roof, and I see more complaints about Thor/Coachmen rigs than most others, too bad, AZDEL is a Plus
Our Jayco is an artifact. Newer ones are done differently than our entry level Escapade model they tried to target at rentals. Discontinued storage design with very shallow compartments. Rubber roof and non-fiberglass cap. Both of these have caused problems. Still, No cabinets have fallen apart, no wiring or plumbing problems, no underpinning problems, Dinette solidly in place. Has Oven and DSI/electric water heater. Cockpit seats durable and comfortable.
I don't blame you for going "long" as we travel as a couple and appreciate the room. No slides, so not as much room as 31-feet suggests.
So there it is. Consider what you paid for these opinions.
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