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mowermech
Nov 20, 2014Explorer
Welll, guys, all I know is what I have observed.
Gas engines have compression braking, even those old 7:1 compression ratio Model A 4 bangers. It is just the nature of the beast.
Diesel engines (at least the Cummins in my old Dodge 3500 and the little 4 banger in my older Datsun pickup) have negligible compression braking. The Dodge/Cummins however, had a Jacobs Rambrake installed on the engine, and when it was engaged there was a LOT of braking power! Since there was NO intake vacuum, it had a vacuum pump installed to supply vacuum to the cruise control, the Jake Brake, and the power brakes.
As for the throttle plate discussion, I have tried starting gas engines of various sizes by pushing or rolling down hills, and even with the throttle open there is a LOT of compression braking until the engine starts running (if it starts!).
My old Datsun diesel pickup had a throttle plate and venturi (the venturi created vacuum to control the injection pump via a diaphragm). With the throttle plate closed, it still had negligible compression braking.
I have no idea what the technical explanation of all this is, and don't really care. The observations are factual.
Oh, yeah, to answer the original quesation: No, there is no Jake brake or similar unit for gas engines. They don't need them. the inherent compression braking does the job just fine.
Gas engines have compression braking, even those old 7:1 compression ratio Model A 4 bangers. It is just the nature of the beast.
Diesel engines (at least the Cummins in my old Dodge 3500 and the little 4 banger in my older Datsun pickup) have negligible compression braking. The Dodge/Cummins however, had a Jacobs Rambrake installed on the engine, and when it was engaged there was a LOT of braking power! Since there was NO intake vacuum, it had a vacuum pump installed to supply vacuum to the cruise control, the Jake Brake, and the power brakes.
As for the throttle plate discussion, I have tried starting gas engines of various sizes by pushing or rolling down hills, and even with the throttle open there is a LOT of compression braking until the engine starts running (if it starts!).
My old Datsun diesel pickup had a throttle plate and venturi (the venturi created vacuum to control the injection pump via a diaphragm). With the throttle plate closed, it still had negligible compression braking.
I have no idea what the technical explanation of all this is, and don't really care. The observations are factual.
Oh, yeah, to answer the original quesation: No, there is no Jake brake or similar unit for gas engines. They don't need them. the inherent compression braking does the job just fine.
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