Don't know what happened but it's bad

Ray, not directed at you but some of the ridiculous speculation unencumbered by any known facts has exceeded any reasonable standard of constructive or informative.

Folks a family was destroyed, people lost their lives... No one here who posted any condemnations or accusations have any facts...Enough

This event should be a wake up call for all to do everything possible to keep ourselves and family safe relative to equipment condition and driving techniques.

My Prayers to the Family...

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JohnnyT Moderator

And that is what happens when you have tires that should be changed out at least every five years, and here we have some that say to go ten years. GEEZ!

Peralko wrote:
One interesting observation is that the individuals who most likely wore seat belts were killed, while the ones in the back, most of which were not wearing a seat belt(doubt they had 8 seatbelts in the back!), survived.

those sitting in the two front seats plowed through a few walls, etc. and seatbelts/airbags/etc. wouldn't have saved them.
bumpy

I'm a bit surprised at those who are talking about hitting the brakes anyway. If you have a front tire go down, the last thing you want to do is hit the brakes. Hitting the brakes would likely yank the wheel out of your hand. My brother had a front tire blow out in my CAR, after gaining control, he just lightly applied the brakes. That immediately put the car into the guard rail. And that was only a car. Think of what that would do in a coach.

All I'm going to do is say a prayer for those who died and those who are traumatized by being in such an accident.

God bless them all. As an RV'er, I hate to see any motorhome accident because though I know what I SHOULD do during a blowout or other panic situation no one really knows HOW they will respond until it happens.

One interesting observation is that the individuals who most likely wore seat belts were killed, while the ones in the back, most of which were not wearing a seat belt(doubt they had 8 seatbelts in the back!), survived.

MarcW wrote:

And Bumpy... are you trying to be obtuse? I said that there is a slight downhill slope from the hwy to the frontage road that separates the houses from the Interstate. I didn't use Google to determine that.... I'm there. I walked in the tire tracks leading up to the impact.
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your comment is totally out of line. I was responding to rockhillmanor's comment "There IS a distinct drop off from the interstate down to that dirt area. Look at perspectives of wall and parked cars in upper left how low they are compared to interstate."

from checking google earth it seemed like it would have been as you say, a slight downhill slope from the highway. no "distinct drop off" that I could see.

bumpy

Man!! some of the commentary here on this is incredible!

First... I'm not just looking at news pictures. I'm there. Go back and actually read my previous posts.

Second... the right front tire blew out. Eye witness accounts have more than one person hearing it blow and seeing the coach leaving the hwy as a result.
I walked up and looked at the tire and it was blown.

And yes, heart attacks cause accidents. As a retired firefighter paramedic, I can tell you that what they don't do... is cause tires to blow out.

Third... the driver and front seat passenger did not die from a exploding front windshield from running off the road onto a smooth down sloping dirt field. The died from a house hitting them in the face at 60mph.

Why was there no hard breaking during the 300' trip thru the dirt? I don't know but if the driver tried to regain control while leaving the road, she might have not hit the brakes as a first response. I know I wouldn't.
If the cruise was on, it would have still been under power and with less than 4 seconds from the road to the house that may not have been enough time for her to realize that.

And Bumpy... are you trying to be obtuse? I said that there is a slight downhill slope from the hwy to the frontage road that separates the houses from the Interstate. I didn't use Google to determine that.... I'm there. I walked in the tire tracks leading up to the impact.

I originally commented on this because I just witnessed the horrific results of what a tire failure can do with a heavy motor coach at speed out on the highway. I thought that might make someone think about theirs. Maybe somebody has.

Done.

rockhillmanor wrote:


There IS a distinct drop off from the interstate down to that dirt area. Look at perspectives of wall and parked cars in upper left how low they are compared to interstate.

I have 'always' had a deep concern fo :(

I checked the elevations in google earth and the road and ground at the house is about the same elevation, 2598 ft.
bumpy

I looked at some more pictures. There is no indication in the aerial shot of the what looks like clay or sand that there was an attempt to try and stop the vcehicle. No huge ditches of skid marks from attempting to stop.

There IS a distinct drop off from the interstate down to that dirt area. Look at perspectives of wall and parked cars in upper left how low they are compared to interstate.

I have 'always' had a deep concern for Class A windshields. It is a know fact that these windows just explode and are destroyed from a simple 30 mph collision. Many of us have actually experienced it and know all what gets damaged and costs. IMHO it is what the Achilles heel is of our A's.

A Class A being jerked off the road and over that drop off with the force of 60mph WOULD have destroyed that front windshield upon impact.
Right then and there.

Sad to say but IMHO, and like the rest of us 'just from pictures'... Those poor RV'ers died upon impact with and/or from the windshield right at that drop off, and the MH under power continued on also being pushed by a 5,000 lb toad. :(:(