Ekomotorhomes new class b based on Dodge promaster

bobojay5 wrote:
I'm with MLTS22 on this, and his suggestions.

Fastpaddler, the last 2 RV's we've had came equipped with 10' drain hoses. They were plenty long except in a couple cases

I have the storage tube on my PW and I can put a 15ft hose in there. I had a 10ft hose and some sites were awkward to reach the drain. I guess I need to go to 5 star RV places more often. Vancouver Island is usually good with about 10, for sure. But not always.
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Gene in NE wrote:
Another Class B that has beds too short and interior height requiring to move around bent over. The home (california king) mattress is 84" long - just right. ;)

Naa.. You just need to walk around on your knees!

I suppose this is an advantage to being a shorter than average guy. :)

I'm with MLTS22 on this, and his suggestions.

Fastpaddler, the last 2 RV's we've had came equipped with 10' drain hoses. They were plenty long except in a couple cases

The holding tank is for the shower and sink water. In Europe, having a greywater system and a cassette toilet is the norm. This has some advantages, especially in the winterization department, as one can use water/antifreeze for flushing. Another advantage is that the greywater can be dumped down a storm drain (with permission), and the blackwater cassette can be flushed down a bath house toilet.

The composting toilet would be great for boondocking, but for virtually every other task, it isn't fun. Instead of just pulling a valve or yanking a cartridge out, one has to grab a bottle full of #1 and find a proper disposal location for that, then dig out the bucket of #2, toss that, then toss some peat moss in the bucket. Yecchy, dirty work, and has to be done a lot more often.

I would say the composting toilet should be an option, but they should see about a Thetford or Dometic cassette toilet, cut a hole for the hatch, and use that. Even this is still odd to American RV-ers, but the advantage of this design is freedom to do better floorplans without being stuck with only one or two spaces for the black tank, the toilet on top of that, then the bathroom on that. I've seen cassette toilets in UK rigs that have built in ventilation systems so one doesn't even need the blue goo, just dump out, rinse, and shove it back in.

I think what this company has is a version 1.0 rig. They are in a completely new market with (to the US) a completely new chassis. All they need to do is add storage above the rear door pair and put in a cassette toilet, and JMHO, I think they likely have a hit on their hands.

senf has a good point which i noted but forgot about. The black holding tank at 12 gallons is pretty typical. The 10 ft sewage hose is, by the way, about 5 feet too short for normal RV stops.

why would the specs include a sewage hose and a 12 gallon holding tank if the toilet was waterless? Seems pointless to have half of one system and half of another.

Re composting. I don't think the feces would have enough time to break down into fertilizer so you would essentially be putting poop in the garbage. Try explaining that to a ranger. I vote porta potti or cassette using formaldahyde free digester so you won't harm septic systems.

Be interesting to see how their business model plays out on these. And hopefully they'll take some suggestions from folks with a little "B" knowledge.

Just a side note here. Our local Chrysler dealer sold their first Promaster yesterday. Just happened to drive by while they were delivering it. It was sitting beside a ratty looking Ford commercial van that had seen better days.
The Promaster was a short low top 1500, in white.

That is something Winnebago got right -- if you want carpet, toss a rug down.

I did some research into the Nature's Head composting toilet. If you are a boondocker and the black water tank is the factor causing one to have to go home, this is good. The urine bottle can be dumped a number of ways. The compost pile for #2 is somewhat messy to empty, but it can be done in a plastic bag.

However, if you are not boondocking, a cassette toilet or a standard black tank is a lot easier to deal with, and you don't have to deal with an open waste bucket (even though in theory, the poop breaks down into fertilizer, but it still is a yucky bucket to empty.) The toilet is also taller than a normal one, and also requires a small vent fan, which may or may not be noisy.

Gene in NE wrote:
Another Class B that has beds too short and interior height requiring to move around bent over. The home (california king) mattress is 84" long - just right. ;)

Too short for you, but fine for many. (like me) :C

My biggest beef would be all that carpet. UGH!! It will always be filthy dirty if you have kids or dogs, and impossible to keep clean even if you only have adults who don't/can't take their shoes off before entering. Full of grass or sand or dirt or leaves or oil or or or. I've never understood why RV manufacturers put carpet in any of them. Give me something I can sweep or easily wipe up with a paper towel or a swiffer.