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- tinkererExplorerMrMark I tried quoting you but it didn't want to post it. I was just going to state that since I praised my full slide it will probably give me trouble now. It seems to happen to me when I brag about a product! Have safe travels also!:B
- tinkererExplorer
Mr.Mark wrote:
tinkerer wrote:
Being I have full slide and after 9 years we still love it. Just opinion but the user should level the coach before deploying and run it all of the way out or all of the way in. This helps support the roof. Like a lot of post the people don't own products seem to know more about them than the owners!;)
Tinkerer, I don't want to knock your full wall slide but just because some of us don't have one, doesn't mean we don't know about them.
I stated earlier in this thread that I prefer 4 separate slides. We have friends that had no trouble out of their full wall slide on a '07 Monaco Signature. Now that I praised my full slide it probably will give me problems. It usually happens when I brag about something!
I had to help my brother push-in his regular slide on his '05 Damon Astoria (sold), those are heavy enough.
I like to keep the top of my slides clean. I don't see how you can possibly keep a full wall slide clean under the awning. And, stuff WILL get under the awning.
It would be very difficult to try to push-in a heavy full wall slide if it ever failed (chances are good that you may never need to).
I also had the awning topper on our Monaco Dynasty's living room driver's side slide pop off in a windstorm in Malibu, CA. I was able to climb on the roof and unscrew it and put it inside (lucky on that one). It was 14 ft. long, how would you store a full-wall slide awning (over 20-25 ft. or more?) if it was ever needed?
Our current new coach does not have awning toppers as we have air seals. I still like to keep the tops of the slides clean. My extension pole will barely go the length of the longer slide and would no way cover a full-wall slide under an awning cover.
Again, nothing wrong with a full-wall slide, it just wouldn't work for me 'maintenance-wise'.
Safe travels,
MM. - Mile_HighExplorerya, my FWS is a big three rail power gear system and I never seem to worry about that one, however the smaller Schwintek slides on the other side make me nervous every time I use them.
- Two_JayhawksExplorer
Mile High wrote:
Has anyone ever heard of structural issues as a result of a full wall slide? They have been around for years. I thought the same thing 12 years ago when I first saw one, but never have I heard of an issue.
The only exception may be the Lifestyle 5th wheel that had a full wall slide, and they dropped it when they abandoned their square tube frame and went to the standard Lippert I-beam frame and 2 years later closed shop. I don't think the change was due to structural problems, I think they just couldn't afford to keep making them that way and gave a last ditch effort to try to make 5th wheels like everyone elses, but it was too late.
I have not. However I have read plenty of FWS issues on this forum and others over the years. There is a very bad FWS mess with a new Newmar going on this week on the Newmar forum. IMO they are slightly more problematic than a regular slide. Then again they displace two regular slides so are they more problematic than two slides? If you remove what a couple mfg's have done with over loading the FWS with the less expensive in wall slide system the statistics go down. Regardless I make the sign of the cross every time it goes in/out with no issue. So far so good! - Mile_HighExplorerHas anyone ever heard of structural issues as a result of a full wall slide? They have been around for years. I thought the same thing 12 years ago when I first saw one, but never have I heard of an issue.
The only exception may be the Lifestyle 5th wheel that had a full wall slide, and they dropped it when they abandoned their square tube frame and went to the standard Lippert I-beam frame and 2 years later closed shop. I don't think the change was due to structural problems, I think they just couldn't afford to keep making them that way and gave a last ditch effort to try to make 5th wheels like everyone elses, but it was too late. - Mr_Mark1Explorer
tinkerer wrote:
Being I have full slide and after 9 years we still love it. Just opinion but the user should level the coach before deploying and run it all of the way out or all of the way in. This helps support the roof. Like a lot of post the people don't own products seem to know more about them than the owners!;)
Tinkerer, I don't want to knock your full wall slide but just because some of us don't have one, doesn't mean we don't know about them.
I stated earlier in this thread that I prefer 4 separate slides. We have friends that had no trouble out of their full wall slide on a '07 Monaco Signature.
I had to help my brother push-in his regular slide on his '05 Damon Astoria (sold), those are heavy enough.
I like to keep the top of my slides clean. I don't see how you can possibly keep a full wall slide clean under the awning. And, stuff WILL get under the awning.
It would be very difficult to try to push-in a heavy full wall slide if it ever failed (chances are good that you may never need to).
I also had the awning topper on our Monaco Dynasty's living room driver's side slide pop off in a windstorm in Malibu, CA. I was able to climb on the roof and unscrew it and put it inside (lucky on that one). It was 14 ft. long, how would you store a full-wall slide awning (over 20-25 ft. or more?) if it was ever needed?
Our current new coach does not have awning toppers as we have air seals. I still like to keep the tops of the slides clean. My extension pole will barely go the length of the longer slide and would no way cover a full-wall slide under an awning cover.
Again, nothing wrong with a full-wall slide, it just wouldn't work for me 'maintenance-wise'.
Safe travels,
MM. - tinkererExplorerBeing I have full slide and after 9 years we still love it. Just opinion but the user should level the coach before deploying and run it all of the way out or all of the way in. This helps support the roof. Like a lot of post the people don't own products seem to know more about them than the owners!;)
- tropical36Explorer
wredman wrote:
what do they do to provide the vertical support for the roof along these long slide outs? Does a large snow/ice load cause issues for instance?
Not a structural engineer, but from the looks of it, I'd probably be installing a steel I beam across the top, bottom and with the same for uprights on each end and that would be if it never moved. I really don't think it's a question of if, but when, it's going to give one, some real problems and still say it'a all about cost savings over having 4 smaller ones. - wredmanExplorerwhat do they do to provide the vertical support for the roof along these long slide outs? Does a large snow/ice load cause issues for instance?
- doc_brownExplorerPersonally I do not like the open effect of a full wall slide. Call me crazy but I like multiple small slides. I like compartmentalization. Also as said by others sometimes you can only deploy, or only want to deploy, one of the slides. When dry camping in the desert I bring in my bedroom slide because of the wind and leave the front slides deployed. The beauty of life is choices.
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