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David0725
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Mar 27, 2016

King Jack Antenna?

I just pick up a King jack Antenna today to replace the batwing one I have. Question 1 will this replace the converter box I have for the old school tv? Question 2. I have a booster in the rv now do I disconnect that one and use the wire for the new installation?
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  • gwtriker's avatar
    gwtriker
    Explorer
    Mar 28, 2016
    The Jack antenna seems to be more selective as to the direction it's pointing towards to get a good signal ... a smidge one way or the other and the tv station is gone. I downloaded a DTV ANTENNAS app on my cell phone. It shows the direction and distance of the tv stations available. By rotating the King antenna to point in the direction shown by the app, we get good reception with very little messing around.
  • Bill_Satellite's avatar
    Bill_Satellite
    Explorer II
    Mar 27, 2016
    David0725 wrote:
    well darn I was trying to eliminate the converter box :( the batwing is broke at the gear so it has to be replaced. should I just replace the batwing or go ahead and instill the king jack? and add a new tv. I did put a new flat screen in the back bed room that work great off the broke Antenna. I could replace the front one but it wont look as nice.


    There are replacement parts available for nearly every piece of the Winegard Batwing antenna. If it is as old as it sounds I would just buy an entire new setup and with the Sensar IV head and you will have the best of everything.
  • Johno02's avatar
    Johno02
    Explorer
    Mar 27, 2016
    With my Sensar batwing, and the Sensar signal meter, have pulled in stations over 65 miles away, (over Flat country). Don't think you can beat it, but the Jack is the next best thing.
  • Snomas's avatar
    Snomas
    Explorer
    Mar 27, 2016
    I have replaced both TV's w/ Vizio flat screens and love them both. I use the bat wing and get great reception when in use. The front Tv was the only one that was more of a project than the rear, but fits over the front of the original box like it was made for it.
  • RoyB's avatar
    RoyB
    Explorer II
    Mar 27, 2016
    When the Natl Broadcast changed over to digital HDTV a few years back I rounded up all of my older TV's and made a King George Dump Run... Never went with the digital tv conversion box that was free at the time. I found good prices at WALMART for the VIZIO HDTV models. This last year Christmas Time sales WALMART had several different brand large screen HDTV models for sale at a real good price... They might some of those still available at WALMART. I got the 26-inch model for the main TV area and the 22-inch model for the bedroom. My OFF-ROAD POPUP uses the 22-inch model. My 22-inch Vizio model in the OFF-ROAD POPUP really gets dragged thru back roads and weird almost extreme conditions. Works like a brand new one still after being installed in 2009... Having the same brand allows you to use the same TV remote everywhere haha...

    Roy Ken
  • ets1996's avatar
    ets1996
    Explorer
    Mar 27, 2016
    Also if you keep the batwing I think you can replace the broken gear, not the whole assembly. I know I bought a new one a few years back and the repair was fairly easy.
  • SCVJeff's avatar
    SCVJeff
    Explorer
    Mar 27, 2016
    Here is another negative on the Jack. Very shortly the FCC is going to reshuffle the band and auction off as much of the UHF band as possible, and they are pushing HARD to repopulate the VHF-Hi & VHF-Lo bands again. The Jack is not a VHF antenna and performs considerably worse on VHF than the Batwing.
  • Got_Dirt_'s avatar
    Got_Dirt_
    Explorer
    Mar 27, 2016
    David0725 wrote:
    well darn I was trying to eliminate the converter box :( the batwing is broke at the gear so it has to be replaced. should I just replace the batwing or go ahead and instill the king jack? and add a new tv. I did put a new flat screen in the back bed room that work great off the broke Antenna. I could replace the front one but it wont look as nice.


    If your new TV has an ATSC tuner then there's no more need for the converter box (unless of course your other TV is old)
  • David0725's avatar
    David0725
    Explorer II
    Mar 27, 2016
    well darn I was trying to eliminate the converter box :( the batwing is broke at the gear so it has to be replaced. should I just replace the batwing or go ahead and instill the king jack? and add a new tv. I did put a new flat screen in the back bed room that work great off the broke Antenna. I could replace the front one but it wont look as nice.
  • RoyB's avatar
    RoyB
    Explorer II
    Mar 27, 2016
    If you are going to replace the BATWING on its crank up arm just pull the two pins and place the Kings antenna in its place.

    Just use the same RG cable you was using for the BATWING. The JACK antenna Internal Pre-amplifier will be powered up by the same 12VDC the BATWIG antenna was using. The Kings Jack antenna will be pointing to the transmitting TV station to the RIGHT in this photo..




    If your Kings Jack is the low profile install you will have to remove the whole BATWING crank-up assy. The Jack antenna in this case will not be very high and will only rotate.


    I was not impressed with the JACK ANTENNA all that much as compared with Vanguard BATWING with dipoles. I got better performance with this antenna on my setup...


    Roy Ken

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David0725 wrote:
well darn I was trying to eliminate the converter box :( the batwing is broke at the gear so it has to be replaced. should I just replace the batwing or go ahead and instill the king jack? and add a new tv. I did put a new flat screen in the back bed room that work great off the broke Antenna. I could replace the front one but it wont look as nice.


There are replacement parts available for nearly every piece of the Winegard Batwing antenna. 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Very shortly the FCC is going to reshuffle the band and auction off as much of the UHF band as possible, and they are pushing HARD to repopulate the VHF-Hi & VHF-Lo bands again. 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David0725 wrote:
well darn I was trying to eliminate the converter box :( the batwing is broke at the gear so it has to be replaced. should I just replace the batwing or go ahead and instill the king jack? and add a new tv. I did put a new flat screen in the back bed room that work great off the broke Antenna. I could replace the front one but it wont look as nice.


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Just use the same RG cable you was using for the BATWING. The JACK antenna Internal Pre-amplifier will be powered up by the same 12VDC the BATWIG antenna was using. The Kings Jack antenna will be pointing to the transmitting TV station to the RIGHT in this photo..




If your Kings Jack is the low profile install you will have to remove the whole BATWING crank-up assy. The Jack antenna in this case will not be very high and will only rotate.


I was not impressed with the JACK ANTENNA all that much as compared with Vanguard BATWING with dipoles. I got better performance with this antenna on my setup...


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