looking for owners of 2004-2005 Pace Arrows
I'd like to make contact with others who own one of the new (2004, 2005) Pace Arrows so we can share experiences, problems, good things, etc.
Forum Discussion
1. The Actual horns are defective they went to the plant and picked up another pair, they were defective, back to the plant for another pair (tested them before they left the plant. They worked :B
To check the horns is simple ... go on the roof put 12dc to one side of the horn ground the other wire. If you have a 12 or 14 volt rechargable battery that will be enough to power the horns for a test, or a 12v test light with two pick points one stuck in one wire to the horn the other to the other wire Same horn) then have someone honk the horn. if the light lights you have power to the horn so the horn is bad. Just so you know, properly working I could not tell the electric horn and an air horn apart.
2. Paul if the plastic you are talking about is on the lefthand side of the galley slide at the wall on the floor it was put down with double sided tape quick fix is drill a flat head screw flush with the top to hold it in place.
3. For those that get an occasional drip from overhead front cap but everthing is sealed above ... it is caused by condensation. The soundproofing material stuffed in behind the TV and speakers is not enough to stop condensation from forming on the inside of the cap so it will sometimes drip when condensation forms. On the 07s they are going to spray a heavy foam on the inside of the cap. There was no fix he could give me but they are working on it, he did assure me it was not the clearance lights or something we could seal from the top of the cap/roof.
4. Did not find out how to access service bulletins. This group is design and development of slides, chassis, chassis platforms, test track stuff. One of the projects they were working on was super riviting the frame extensions onto Workhorse/Ford chassis instead of welding. To hard to test welds, train welders, etc. they had a Class C filled with about 80 concrete parking lot bumpers, getting ready to go to the test track. They didn't have the answer to the service bulletins.
5. Best calking for TPO Roof is Dicor 502. For cap seals put a tape over the joint called Eterna Bond or something like that, sorry I forgot to write it down, he said it would last a very long time probably longer than most of us would own our motorhomes.
6. As for the spark plug wires and air flow. Workhorse specified that Fleetwood channel all the air flow to go through the cooling fans and raidator. THe "cowling" under the hood that blocks a lot of air flow was installed at Workhorse request to channel the air throught the radiator and Workhorse signed off on the design. Workhorse has not made any change request to Fleetwood advising of the problem or requesting a change in air flow design. These guys would know they are the ones that would do the design changes.
7. My livingroom slide was not sealing correctly at the top when closed, a couple of times in a wind I could see daylight between the slide and the wall seal, after working on it for 2 days they gave me 2 choices. The first was to take it to the factory and remove the slide and a bunch of other stuff so they could remove and reset the main slide bar casings. Would involve a lot of cutting and welding plus it might take as long as a month. The second choice is they would supply slide locks to pull in the top. I went with the slide locks. With the locks the fit is tight all the way around and the slide is firm in place. They said the slide being held firm would put a lot more usefull life on the slide mechanisim because it was not moving allowing undue wear or stress. Cathy and I noticed it cut down on road noise too. I'd recommend them to anyone for the livingroom slide. A big part of the problem is no weight in the slide to hold it down, a couch and free standing table is all it has inside holding it down on the floor when closed, then you have the basement storage, which I have full, underneath helping to pull the top out. Anyway long story short the slide locks did the trick and solved a couple problems.
That's about it for tonight. I learned a lot and met some friendly, interesting, people. If I forgot any ones questionplese forgive me or if you want to ask something I'll try to answer, I think I forgot more of what they explained to me than I remember.
Larry
To check the horns is simple ... go on the roof put 12dc to one side of the horn ground the other wire. If you have a 12 or 14 volt rechargable battery that will be enough to power the horns for a test, or a 12v test light with two pick points one stuck in one wire to the horn the other to the other wire Same horn) then have someone honk the horn. if the light lights you have power to the horn so the horn is bad. Just so you know, properly working I could not tell the electric horn and an air horn apart.
2. Paul if the plastic you are talking about is on the lefthand side of the galley slide at the wall on the floor it was put down with double sided tape quick fix is drill a flat head screw flush with the top to hold it in place.
3. For those that get an occasional drip from overhead front cap but everthing is sealed above ... it is caused by condensation. The soundproofing material stuffed in behind the TV and speakers is not enough to stop condensation from forming on the inside of the cap so it will sometimes drip when condensation forms. On the 07s they are going to spray a heavy foam on the inside of the cap. There was no fix he could give me but they are working on it, he did assure me it was not the clearance lights or something we could seal from the top of the cap/roof.
4. Did not find out how to access service bulletins. This group is design and development of slides, chassis, chassis platforms, test track stuff. One of the projects they were working on was super riviting the frame extensions onto Workhorse/Ford chassis instead of welding. To hard to test welds, train welders, etc. they had a Class C filled with about 80 concrete parking lot bumpers, getting ready to go to the test track. They didn't have the answer to the service bulletins.
5. Best calking for TPO Roof is Dicor 502. For cap seals put a tape over the joint called Eterna Bond or something like that, sorry I forgot to write it down, he said it would last a very long time probably longer than most of us would own our motorhomes.
6. As for the spark plug wires and air flow. Workhorse specified that Fleetwood channel all the air flow to go through the cooling fans and raidator. THe "cowling" under the hood that blocks a lot of air flow was installed at Workhorse request to channel the air throught the radiator and Workhorse signed off on the design. Workhorse has not made any change request to Fleetwood advising of the problem or requesting a change in air flow design. These guys would know they are the ones that would do the design changes.
7. My livingroom slide was not sealing correctly at the top when closed, a couple of times in a wind I could see daylight between the slide and the wall seal, after working on it for 2 days they gave me 2 choices. The first was to take it to the factory and remove the slide and a bunch of other stuff so they could remove and reset the main slide bar casings. Would involve a lot of cutting and welding plus it might take as long as a month. The second choice is they would supply slide locks to pull in the top. I went with the slide locks. With the locks the fit is tight all the way around and the slide is firm in place. They said the slide being held firm would put a lot more usefull life on the slide mechanisim because it was not moving allowing undue wear or stress. Cathy and I noticed it cut down on road noise too. I'd recommend them to anyone for the livingroom slide. A big part of the problem is no weight in the slide to hold it down, a couch and free standing table is all it has inside holding it down on the floor when closed, then you have the basement storage, which I have full, underneath helping to pull the top out. Anyway long story short the slide locks did the trick and solved a couple problems.
That's about it for tonight. I learned a lot and met some friendly, interesting, people. If I forgot any ones questionplese forgive me or if you want to ask something I'll try to answer, I think I forgot more of what they explained to me than I remember.
Larry
