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ron_dittmer
Dec 11, 2017Explorer II
I did not read through the replies given by others. As for me, it's a diesel versus gas issue as much as it is Mercedes versus Ford issue. Here are my trade-offs.
Advantages Of The Mercedes Sprinter With Diesel Engine
- Offers a 35%-50% improvement in fuel economy over the Ford-V10, when both are loaded and driven identically.
- More ergonomic driver compartment with more leg room.
- Comfort continues with a car-like feel & quiet ride.
- A grander view out the windshield
- Made by Mercedes which people are attracted to.
Advantages Of The Ford E350 with V10 Engine
- Given identical motor homes both brand and model, the Ford is around $13,000 MSRP cheaper
- The Ford V10 engine has 50% more horse power and torque
- The Ford E350 chassis handles 1430 pounds more weight.
- The E350 is able to tow a heavier load.
- The E350 rear axle is significantly wider which translates to better stability.
- In most places traveled, gasoline costs less than diesel fuel
- The Sprinter diesel has limited mechanical service shops around North America
- The Sprinter diesel is typically outfitted with a propane generator. Propane is a critical fuel for RV operations, and generally needs to be rationed when dry camping.
- This Next Point Is Debatable But Still Worth Noting....The V6 Sprinter diesel engine is not allowed to idle for extended periods. This limitation is detrimental when you need a/c but there are generator restrictions, you are low on propane, or you have a mechanical failure with the generator or roof a/c. The Ford offers a great backup system. The V10 can safely idle for hours on end, heating, cooling, and battery charging, all valuable if you have a baby, pets, or health/respiratory issues.
I suggest adding Phoenix Cruiser models 2350 and 2400 to your list of Sprinter/Ford candidates. Both models are offered on the Sprinter and the E350 for direct comparison. The E450 chassis is also available via special request. Use the pricing tool on their website to compare costs. There are a number of Phoenix Cruiser owners in your area. Maybe you could connect with one and get a walk-through. Phoenix USA does not sell through 3rd parties via RV lots. With two rare exceptions, they are sold factory direct. People all say it is best to fly out there and drive your new PC home. If you find PC exceptionally interesting, I advise to join the Phoenix forum and pick the brain of current owners.
If you decide to drop the Sprinter all together, that opens up a lot more choices.
My wife and I special ordered our 2007 Phoenix Cruiser 2350 on a 2007 E350 chassis brand new 10.5 years ago, specifically avoiding the extra cost for a slide out because we simply don't like slide outs. You can SEE IT HERE. It's been a great motor home. My only complaint is that we don't use it often enough. Work, house, and family life interfere much.
Advantages Of The Mercedes Sprinter With Diesel Engine
- Offers a 35%-50% improvement in fuel economy over the Ford-V10, when both are loaded and driven identically.
- More ergonomic driver compartment with more leg room.
- Comfort continues with a car-like feel & quiet ride.
- A grander view out the windshield
- Made by Mercedes which people are attracted to.
Advantages Of The Ford E350 with V10 Engine
- Given identical motor homes both brand and model, the Ford is around $13,000 MSRP cheaper
- The Ford V10 engine has 50% more horse power and torque
- The Ford E350 chassis handles 1430 pounds more weight.
- The E350 is able to tow a heavier load.
- The E350 rear axle is significantly wider which translates to better stability.
- In most places traveled, gasoline costs less than diesel fuel
- The Sprinter diesel has limited mechanical service shops around North America
- The Sprinter diesel is typically outfitted with a propane generator. Propane is a critical fuel for RV operations, and generally needs to be rationed when dry camping.
- This Next Point Is Debatable But Still Worth Noting....The V6 Sprinter diesel engine is not allowed to idle for extended periods. This limitation is detrimental when you need a/c but there are generator restrictions, you are low on propane, or you have a mechanical failure with the generator or roof a/c. The Ford offers a great backup system. The V10 can safely idle for hours on end, heating, cooling, and battery charging, all valuable if you have a baby, pets, or health/respiratory issues.
I suggest adding Phoenix Cruiser models 2350 and 2400 to your list of Sprinter/Ford candidates. Both models are offered on the Sprinter and the E350 for direct comparison. The E450 chassis is also available via special request. Use the pricing tool on their website to compare costs. There are a number of Phoenix Cruiser owners in your area. Maybe you could connect with one and get a walk-through. Phoenix USA does not sell through 3rd parties via RV lots. With two rare exceptions, they are sold factory direct. People all say it is best to fly out there and drive your new PC home. If you find PC exceptionally interesting, I advise to join the Phoenix forum and pick the brain of current owners.
If you decide to drop the Sprinter all together, that opens up a lot more choices.
My wife and I special ordered our 2007 Phoenix Cruiser 2350 on a 2007 E350 chassis brand new 10.5 years ago, specifically avoiding the extra cost for a slide out because we simply don't like slide outs. You can SEE IT HERE. It's been a great motor home. My only complaint is that we don't use it often enough. Work, house, and family life interfere much.
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