Misleading avertising/ignorant sales people

Groover wrote:

bobman wrote:
You need to forget a motorhome and buy a 5th wheel style 3 horse trailer withupgraded living quarters and a Ford superduty diesel dually to pull it

JMO....they make some very nice trailers like this and in this economy they are available for a fair frice

Unfortunately I am trying to use the same vehicle for several purposes. I may want to pull my boat to some water and have that sort of outing or pull a 4WD out west and explore some remote areas. I would like to take the entire family so I would need a good size toad to hold everyone.

The only affordable choices I have found are the new 4 Winds super C that has a 33,000lb GCWR and a 19,500lb GVWR or a used Renegade/Haulmark type. The 4 Winds super C seems to be in verly limited production still and I really can't see myself pulling up someone's field with a 43' Renegade on a class 8 chassis to ride horses or manuevering that rig around a boat ramp. I suspect that it also burns quite a bit more fuel and frankly and concerned with the cost of maintenance on a rig like that. Also, my boat is about 26" from the tip of the trailer to the tip of the engine. That could put me over legal length in most states. I worry that the 4 Winds chassis is marginal and that the long rear overhang would lead to undulations that would be rough on the trailer.

It is frustrating to get so close to what I want and then find out that they saved a few dollars on the transmission and don't offer what really should be in there no matter how much more I pay.

The Allison transmission is known for being stout so maybe it could be pushed a little beyond the ratings, especially if I watch the transmission temperature and drive conservatively. I do hate to spend that much money and then worry about it blowing up on me.

Interestingly, the manufacturer's website was recently updated to show "10,000lbs Towing Capacity". Apparently their own marketing people were taken in by the misleading hype even that the factory rep says that everyone knows better than to take hitch rating as tow rating. I have brought that to his attention and will be interested to see how long it is before that is taken down.

Some people won't like this, but: what about a converted school bus? They will tow huge loads (they're Class 7 trucks with bus bodies) without a hiccup. You can buy an already-converted bus for cheap money.

(No, my Genesis is NOT for sale.) :)