New class B

One would have to watch that first step when making the late-night trip to the bathroom. Other than that, it looks nice.

Thus far I have seen no answer as to whether they are importing it built or building it here. It says "Dodge Promaster" which doesn't exist since it is a Ram. And all the photos are of the European Ducato which looks way better than our old mid-20s style Promaster.

It says the 118wb and 17'9" - but the US 118wb is 16'3" ... and the longer wheel base 1500 is the one over 17" ...

So, since I first saw the info on this van, it still isn't all that clear what exactly will be on the market here.

rexlion wrote:
One would have to watch that first step when making the late-night trip to the bathroom. Other than that, it looks nice.

:B too funny, I didn't think of that .
Having truck camper experience would be helpful.



mumkin, good points , tnx!

Interesting unit. Nice floor plan -- sleek contemporary look.

The only thing that would concern me is the Fiat drivetrain. Certainly not the most trouble-free in the industry.

Now that I look at closer , I wonder how much heat would generate from the skylight above the head of the bed. I remember some members that recorded very high temps in the TC section here, with the acrylic style skylights.

I also question how long those bed supports will last. Another rating not mentioned.

I realize this is not the first post on this unit and was really interested if anyone had any further info and thoughts to add and you do, so thank you.
Hints of this unit surfaced sometime back in 2021 but is now making the rounds in person at malls and some videos have been made showing it in limited fashion. I have heard the company lacks professional people showing the unit, which IMO, doesn't help getting this off the ground.

Things questioned in the past was the lack of info on the specs,, water, holding tank size . Also, still no mention of A/C . But they say it has radiant heating throughout the floor off a Truma unit. I'll bet the ladies will like that warm porcelain seat.

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:
Interesting unit. Nice floor plan -- sleek contemporary look.

The only thing that would concern me is the Fiat drivetrain. Certainly not the most trouble-free in the industry.

But it says "Dodge Promaster" in which case it isn't a Fiat drivetrain. It is the Ram pick-up drive train and engine.

But as I said, that is my big question on these rigs, as I posted above.

mumkin wrote:

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:
Interesting unit. Nice floor plan -- sleek contemporary look.

The only thing that would concern me is the Fiat drivetrain. Certainly not the most trouble-free in the industry.

But it says "Dodge Promaster" in which case it isn't a Fiat drivetrain. It is the Ram pick-up drive train and engine.

But as I said, that is my big question on these rigs, as I posted above.

A Ram ProMaster IS a Fiat van -- Google it. I thought they looked very similar, but not until I Googled it were my suspicions confirmed.

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

A Ram ProMaster IS a Fiat van -- Google it. I thought they looked very similar, but not until I Googled it were my suspicions confirmed.

Of course it is... partially. Fiat owns Dodge/Chrysler. In Europe it is called a Ducato. That is well known and never been a secret. The Ducato is the number one platform for RVs in Europe.

But the Fiat drivetrain and engine were replaced with the Ram truck system for the US market. That too is well known if one cares to know.

You can see my list of rigs owned over the years on my signature... a Ford E350, a Chevy 3500, a Chevy 1500, a Promaster 2500, and a Promaster 1500. The Promaster is by far the best one of the bunch. It drives great with the front wheel drive, gets good gas mileage, provides a wonderfully roomy interior, and has been very dependable. What more can one ask in an RV platform?

Don't let your prejudices against a product that was produced and sold back in the 60's and 70's affect your judgement on these vans. Yes, of course, they have some issues... as does the Sprinter and Transit.

mumkin wrote:

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

A Ram ProMaster IS a Fiat van -- Google it. I thought they looked very similar, but not until I Googled it were my suspicions confirmed.

Of course it is... partially. Fiat owns Dodge/Chrysler. In Europe it is called a Ducato. That is well known and never been a secret. The Ducato is the number one platform for RVs in Europe.

But the Fiat drivetrain and engine were replaced with the Ram truck system for the US market. That too is well known if one cares to know.

You can see my list of rigs owned over the years on my signature... a Ford E350, a Chevy 3500, a Chevy 1500, a Promaster 2500, and a Promaster 1500. The Promaster is by far the best one of the bunch. It drives great with the front wheel drive, gets good gas mileage, provides a wonderfully roomy interior, and has been very dependable. What more can one ask in an RV platform?

Don't let your prejudices against a product that was produced and sold back in the 60's and 70's affect your judgement on these vans. Yes, of course, they have some issues... as does the Sprinter and Transit.

I'm not talking '60s, '70s, or even '80s -- I'm talking present day.

On Edmunds, a full 66% of respondents gave their ProMaster vans either a 1- or 2-star rating (out of 5).

Repairpal.com gives the ProMaster a rating of 2 (out of 5), ranking it #20 out of 21 for commercial vans.

No, certainly no van is perfect, but save the accolades for something more deserving .... if in fact such a vehicle actually exists.

Just wait until some owners of Jeep Renegades find out what they really have is a Fiat 500X in different clothing.

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:
No, certainly no van is perfect, but save the accolades for something more deserving .... if in fact such a vehicle actually exists.

Just wait until some owners of Jeep Renegades find out what they really have is a Fiat 500X in different clothing.

You started out complaining about the Fiat engine/drivetrain - which I pointed out has been totally replaced by Ram with its engine/drivetrain from its pick-ups. So now you are morphing over to Jeeps... totally not relevant here.

As someone who has owned a Promaster for going on 4 years, who has dozens of friends who own and love theirs, I would say that I have the right to give it the accolades that it has earned for many of us RV owners.

Our usage is not the same as commercial users. We are not driving all day, every day, stop/start, and the commercial drivers are usually not the owners, so little care is taken. My Promasters have been as trouble free as my Chevy models with a much better drive and an interior large enough to stand up in and comfortably sleep sideways.

And this is what most of us want in a camper. YMMV