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The Winnebago 70A flex bed is pretty nice concept wise. They created a choice of making it a full king or a semi twin bed with wedge design and filler between so you can get in and out of it easily. King at the head, twin at the legs. The one major thing they did is quit pretending it could serve dually as a sofa. They raised the height so you get a lot of storage underneath. I haven't slept on one so can't speak to comfort.

avanti wrote:
Our new Great West Vans Legend is pretty stealthy:





I special-ordered a compressor refrigerator to eliminate the last of the external vents. If you deleted the awning it would be almost invisible. :)

The important thing to note about this Great West Van Legend is the lack of vents, exhausts, compartments and other signs this is an RV. Take that awning off and you would not have much of a clue this was an RV because even passenger vans this size are sporting rooftop AC now. Eliminating propane, increasing electrical capability, using a compressor frig and concealing utility connections and compartments in the fiber glass skirting contribute to this look. Also, eliminating the traditional decal swoops and swirl graphics so many RVs use is a trend with the B converters. The Euro style all steel unibody instead of fiber glass tops further masks the RV look. The glass strip windows whether window behind it or not has been adopted by most converters. That gives it a passenger van look.

The vents, awnings and AC units on the top are definitely giveaways that a van might be an RV.

Since we're talking stealth B camping, I've sometimes had idle curiosity when looking a newer models about how "stealthy" the newer Sprinters actually would be since Mercedes designed the grill with quite a large logo.

There are after-market conversion kits for older Sprinters with Dodge or Freightliner (like ours) grills (with the Mercedes engine), but we passed on that option, because I suspected the big "star" logo might make the van more of a target for unwelcome attention.

I don't think we are talking about trying to fool anybody. Obviously, anyone who looks carefully enough will recognize any RV for what it is. For me, "stealth" is about two things: (1) aesthetics, and (2) not attracting attention. The simple fact is that anything you can do to not shout "RV" will reduce the likelihood that anyone will even ask themselves "is that a vehicle that doesn't belong here?".

Speaking of stealth, here is an Advanced RV video of a customer with a stealthy B who parked on the Chelsea District streets of New York City for three days and slept in his van.

Advanced RV Andiamo

That is like the holy grail of stealth camping. No set plans, great destination, comfortable stay and no issues. Love it.

My husband and I are total newbies as we started researching for class B rvs since November 2014. We decided on class B for the type of " touring" travels in the future when husband decides to retire. Six months of research and we decided on Airstream Interstate Ext 2015 for the extra space. Like you, we like the clean and "stealth" look and Airstream has no decals on its body. We drove it home from a dealer in Ohio to Michigan. A little nervous in the beginning but sooner ,it drove almost like our long Escalade except for wider turns. The bathroom is tight for for a six foot man but okay okay for me. It's a wet toilet but I figure it gets cleaned up every after shower. We looked at Leisure Way, Wenebago ,Roadtrek Era , and expect to pay more for Airstream. Good luck on your search

Any RV purchase involves trade-offs. The ease of driving and being able to park in my driveway without blocking another vehicle were important factors in my going with a Class B. Most of our travels are shorter trips, and some are solo since my wife is still working. We're more "touring" than "camping" at this stage, and might well have made another choice if we were going to stay some place for weeks at a time.

Small differences can matter. I chose the RT 190 with the larger "permanent" bath that also has the aisle shower option. That replaced the second row of Captain's Chairs, but we didn't have much use for them. Going to a RV show and seeing the various floor plans can help, although the online info is a good start. The choice between a B and a small C is a close call for some, and there is no right or wrong, it's all about how the trade-offs work for you.

....Speaking of stealth, here is an Advanced RV B

Base MSRP: $169,343

A little rich for my blood.

Papa O
Our Pleasureway Plateau TS has rear electric fold down bed and unit is under 22ft. Many on this site have Sprinters and diesels are easy on fuel. Ours has wet bath but works for us as I am 6ft 1inch and 190 lbs with no trouble showering daily. We dont use public facilities if we can avoid it. At 24 ft you would have a big turning circle than I have so parking and turning in tight areas is a factor to consider. Good luck shopping/. If you have a specific question re a rv brand just ask us and somebody will have an opinion.
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Al