Outrageous CA registration fee!

mowermech wrote:
My motorhome is "Permanently" registered. So, there is no annual fee. That applies to my Dodge truck, my Jeep, the trailers, and the ATVs as well.
Here, all vehicles 11 years old or older, all trailers (regardless of type or size), all motorcycles (that includes ATVs) and boats are permanently registered.
But, then I went and bought a 2014 Subaru. I'll be paying annual fees on that for a few years...

Montana is a perfect example of a SOCIALIST state. Yep. The receive $1.47 in federal fund for every dollar paid in federal taxes. Montana could not operate without help from NY, California and every other "left leaning" state. In a nutshell, they are a WELFARE state.

toedtoes wrote:
I love to see hypocracy in action.

Half those states with super low vehicle tax rates are welfare states, where they could not support themselves without the funds "left" states dole out to them in the form of federal funds. While they scream hatred for socialism, they, if fact, are receiving just that. They are the poster children for socialism.....

Teleman wrote:
Last December we bought a 2000 Airstream Land Yacht. They want $775 to register it for 2022! WTH? We never paid anything like that much before on our previous motorhome. Is this some new punishment from our a-hole governor for our "carbon footprint" or some such nonsense? Does anyone know what's going on? We are furious! We love living here for the climate and geography but this has to be the worst governed state in the union.

In California, when you buy a NEW vehicle, you pay state sales tax on it. (in addition to initial license/registration fees) When you buy a used vehicle, you pay a "USE" tax on it which is often the same as the sales tax, the DMV just calls it something different because it's a used vehicle. Provided the vehicle is currently licensed/registered in California, you also pay a transfer of ownership/title fee. The use tax is generally based on your claimed purchase price. If the DMV feels that you are under reporting the current value (purchase price) of the vehicle, they can default to the published Kelly Blue Book value (if one exists) and charge you more.

In subsequent years, you will only pay the annual (depreciated) registration renewal fee which is generally (not always) based on what the state thinks is the current market value.

Chum lee

Teleman wrote:

rlw999 wrote:

I suspect that most of it is the VLF (i.e. a property tax for vehicles), plus a hefty transportation improvement fee. The VLF should reduce each year as the vehicle ages.

Thar is correct. Do other states have a property tax for vehicles? Transportation improvement fee? Lol. When we crossed from Nevade into California on I80 recently there was no need for a sign to let us know we had entered CA as the smooth well maintained road ended and the rough surfaces of the richest state of the union made their presence felt immidiately.

Some other states do have property tax for vehicles, some charge it as a tax paid to the assessor's office, some bundle it into registration like California. But if you've lived in the same house in Clayton for 20 years, you're likely saving far more in property tax on the house than you're paying on the RV.

rlw999 wrote:

Teleman wrote:

rlw999 wrote:

I suspect that most of it is the VLF (i.e. a property tax for vehicles), plus a hefty transportation improvement fee. The VLF should reduce each year as the vehicle ages.

Thar is correct. Do other states have a property tax for vehicles? Transportation improvement fee? Lol. When we crossed from Nevade into California on I80 recently there was no need for a sign to let us know we had entered CA as the smooth well maintained road ended and the rough surfaces of the richest state of the union made their presence felt immidiately.

Some other states do have property tax for vehicles, some charge it as a tax paid to the assessor's office, some bundle it into registration like California. But if you've lived in the same house in Clayton for 20 years, you're likely saving far more in property tax on the house than you're paying on the RV.

We've been in this house for 12 years. Our property taxes go up as the house appreciates in value. Anything we "save" in property taxes is over compensated for in sales tax, the cost of fuel, income tax, and a million other ways the state government can reach into our wallet. They are trying to pass a law taxing us for MILEAGE! We must pay for the privilege of each mile driven.

So tell me what you gas tax is!

2 many 2 wrote:

Teleman wrote:
Last December we bought a 2000 Airstream Land Yacht. They want $775 to register it for 2022! WTH? We never paid anything like that much before on our previous motorhome. Is this some new punishment from our a-hole governor for our "carbon footprint" or some such nonsense? Does anyone know what's going on? We are furious! We love living here for the climate and geography but this has to be the worst governed state in the union.

You may as well get used to it, under the current valuation to registration charges, in four or five years it will go down to about $600.

For the first time, Californians have the opportunity to pay more for vehicle registration than many pay for insurance! Aparently the residents like it, 66% just voted to keep the administration in dictatorship.

You should enjoy your gas prices, it is only $7 a gallon close to you, coming to your neighborhood soon.

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"this has to be the worst governed state in the union"

You are just figuring this out now?

wallynm wrote:
So tell me what you gas tax is!

2 many 2 wrote:

Teleman wrote:
Last December we bought a 2000 Airstream Land Yacht. They want $775 to register it for 2022! WTH? We never paid anything like that much before on our previous motorhome. Is this some new punishment from our a-hole governor for our "carbon footprint" or some such nonsense? Does anyone know what's going on? We are furious! We love living here for the climate and geography but this has to be the worst governed state in the union.

You may as well get used to it, under the current valuation to registration charges, in four or five years it will go down to about $600.

For the first time, Californians have the opportunity to pay more for vehicle registration than many pay for insurance! Aparently the residents like it, 66% just voted to keep the administration in dictatorship.

You should enjoy your gas prices, it is only $7 a gallon close to you, coming to your neighborhood soon.

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"this has to be the worst governed state in the union"

You are just figuring this out now?

We are paying $4.15 for regular, cash. It was $2.89 in January.

It was the trend 15 years or so ago that many california residents lived there until retirement then moved out. Is that still the trend?

Teleman wrote:

We've been in this house for 12 years. Our property taxes go up as the house appreciates in value. Anything we "save" in property taxes is over compensated for in sales tax, the cost of fuel, income tax, and a million other ways the state government can reach into our wallet.

Under Prop 13, assessment increases are capped at 2%, and the SF Bay area has exceeded that rate significantly. You'd be paying far more property tax on your house if not for prop 13.

They are trying to pass a law taxing us for MILEAGE! We must pay for the privilege of each mile driven.

If road taxes are meant to pay for road wear, then mileage (with a weight multiplier) is a fair way to do that -- gas tax is no longer a proxy for miles driven since gas mileage differs so widely among vehicles and EV's don't buy gas at all.

There's not much point in complaining about taxes in the area that you chose to live in. No one lives in California because of its low cost of living.

jdc1 wrote:

mowermech wrote:
My motorhome is "Permanently" registered. So, there is no annual fee. That applies to my Dodge truck, my Jeep, the trailers, and the ATVs as well.
Here, all vehicles 11 years old or older, all trailers (regardless of type or size), all motorcycles (that includes ATVs) and boats are permanently registered.
But, then I went and bought a 2014 Subaru. I'll be paying annual fees on that for a few years...

Montana is a perfect example of a SOCIALIST state. Yep. The receive $1.47 in federal fund for every dollar paid in federal taxes. Montana could not operate without help from NY, California and every other "left leaning" state. In a nutshell, they are a WELFARE state.

Check your facts. California now received $12 MORE PER PERSON FROM THE FED THAN THEY PAID the fed.