Supercharge my motor

Stargazzer wrote:
I was wondering if it is possible to supercharge my V10 Ford engine? I want more power when towing up hills.

Well, there's no question then, you need a diesel!

I would go with the new Ford 6.7 PowerStroke Turbodiesel will make hills seem like you're going downhill! They are an ultra cost-efficient engine upgrade AND will garner superior dollars on sell day when you go to sell it.

I like the idea of forced air in, because it means less power loss at higher elevatons, but I have concerns about engine longetivity. Plus, it will require an engine rechip at the least.

jondrew wrote:

wallynm wrote:
I suggest a BANKS system first.

BANKSPOOOWER

Stargazzer wrote:
I was wondering if it is possible to supercharge my V10 Ford engine? I want more power when towing up hills.

Could you be a bit more specific? You mean a tuning chip? Lots of different products on the Bankspoower web site you linked to

I think he was referring to the whole Banks Power System, from cold air intake system, headers and exhaust going out the back, I have the whole Banks on my 08 Bounder V-10 and it fly's up the hills while towing my Jeep..

sch911 wrote:
Don't see any need for that at all with my V10. Goes up hills with a toad just fine. Does it slow down and downshift on steep grades, yes. But it's never a problem, that's what it's supposed to do.

I have both. Both are good, I also have turbo's too. Like Supercharged the best. Oh so good. Makes hills look like flat Iowa fram land.

A supercharger will provide power increase all across the band. A pop off should be part of the installation.
The question is the V10 Ford motor. Some of them and the V8s too have only a few threads holding the plugs in.
A Paxton type supercharger would work well imo. I would contact Paxton direct and get their recommendation based on the engine and weight ,of the MH. Bigger oil cooler with thermostat and transmission cooler and bigger radiator and possibly good electric fans, to replace the factory unit.
Not going to e cheap but not too bad.
Headers, and good exhaust would be a must have, not for hotrodding but to help get the exhaust out and the engine cooler aand producing maximum power.
You may have to beef up the transmission.

You really need to state what year vehicle you have, so we know what version V10 you are talking about. The early version V10s had a lot of breathing problems, which means there is a ton of gain available, just by improving breathing. If you are not running headers, I would strongly suggest that headers and straight through mufflers is the first place to start. 2 reasons, the first being that you may get the improvement you desire from a superchartger alone. Second reason, and here is the biggy, if you increase the air flow into the engine, but do not manage getting the air out of the engine, all you will do is generate more heat, rather than putting power to the ground. Yes, it would make a small difference, but you would be highly limited in your boost as a result of heat. So the answer is no, there is no practical way to install a supercharger without opening up the exhaust. Since you have to do that anyway, then why not start there.
I would recommend Thorley (218Y1C) for a couple of reasons. First, they use thicker gauge steel pipes than Banks (14ga), which means the engine compartment is quieter. Secondly performance wise, every test I have read when one compares Tr-Y designs, to conventional designs, the Tri-Y always have a much broader power band, as well as slightly greater power over all. Secondly, use Magnaflow mufflers. There are straight through design, perform better than baffled mufflers, and are typically quieter inside the vehicle. I went through a muffler battle with my coach, trying several different muffler types on the same exhaust. I did zero to 60 test runs against a stop watch, so I was not biased by sound or perceptions.

I have seen two supercharger kits for the V-10. That is not counting drag racing uses. where mild boosts take the engine to 600+ HP, way short of levels achieved in similarly sized big block V-8s.

One kit is a centrifugal blower like the Paxton, boost goes up with the square of RPM, so it provides the most extra power where the engine. It fits where there is room in front of the engine for another accessory, or you might be willing to give up air conditioning for more power.

The other was a positive-displacement Rootes-type blower (like the scavanging pump on GMC 2-stroke diesels) or an axial flow compressor. This gives the same increase in effective displacement at all engine speeds, although at small throttle openings the mechanicals can use up most of the added power, so mostly what you see is more fuel consumption at light loads. The Rootes blower I saw was installed on top of the engine, replacing the intake manifolds. It fit under the hood of an F-series (and did fine on a Mustang with a hood cutout) but might not fit under a motorhome engine cover.

I've seen the V-10 turbocharged (it needs two fairly large turbos) but not as a kit for highway use.

For what supercharging might cost you, you could probably replace the engine-transmission package with a 6 to 7 liter turbodiesel from a wrecked pickup.

If you increase the power much over stock (and use it), you will overheat quickly. Your transmission will not like it either. As an engineer who once worked on vehicles, one of the things I learned is that a 10% increase in torque cuts transmission gear and bearing life in half.

Even a little bit of boost would be nice to help with towing at high elevation. The Banks kist is nice but I have heard people say that it doesn't make as much of a difference on the Newer 365hp V10.

Our 99 F53 Bounder 35s had it already installed so I can't compare to stock but I am more than happy with the power.

Yes it can be supercharged. The Triton motors take well to boost without modifications. Factory output levels are very conservative. You will have to look at the various superchargers and decide for yourself if they will fit in your motorhomes engine compartment. Every RV is different.

Nitrous is not a good solution in an RV because the base timing has to be retarded, so you loose power except when injecting nitrous, and it'll consume that stuff fast because its a large motor.

I have the Banks PowerPack, along with an AFE intake and tuner (Predator, but if I did it again I'd go with 5-star). I'm happy with my V10 after making those changes.