Tank odors

I have had the tank smell only two times. Both times it was wen I was in a long term spot and let the tank build up to 3/4 before I emptied or when I did not dump after boon docking and waited till I got to the next campground. I put blue dawn dish detergent in it and put some water and use it and it is less and then put water and dawn in before I leave and drive and it is fine.

J-Rooster wrote:
There have been several RV.Net posters in the past who had there black tank explode! The black tanks in these cases according to the posters had urine in the black tank for long periods of time. They bought there coaches from 2nd parties never RVing before and dumped bleach in the black tank!

So several past RVers bought used RVs that still had "stuff" in the black tank. That stuff could have been urine, or maybe previous owner cleaned with straight ammonia, or maybe previous owner was a Walter White. Who knows. I'd lean towards a Walter White-type owner if the seller didn't even bother to empty the holding tanks.

Anyway, when buying a used RV, even I'd recommend dumping the tanks before adding anything.

TechWriter wrote:

2chiefsRus wrote:

Mixing bleach and ammonia is extremely dangerous, since toxic vapors will be produced.

True, but pee is not 100% ammonia. In fact it's 95% water so I don't think you have to worry about toxic gas.

In addition, your black and gray tanks are vented systems.

Plus, you'd get bleach into the gray tank via a sink which has a water trap. I suppose getting bleach into the black tank could be problematic because it would have to be added though an open toilet valve. However, just close the toilet valve right after adding the bleach.

Goggle "What happens when bleach and ammonia are mixed"! There have been several RV.Net posters in the past who had there black tank explode! The black tanks in these cases according to the posters had urine in the black tank for long periods of time. They bought there coaches from 2nd parties never RVing before and dumped bleach in the black tank! Lots of urine that has been sitting in a black tank for a long time will turn to ammonia! I've been RVing since 1976 and I've never used bleach in my black or gray tank.

Sully2 wrote:

TechWriter wrote:

old guy wrote:
hate to tell you this but bleach and urine do not mix very well.

Please explain.

For one thing too much bleach can ruin the seals in your septic lines / tank

Not true. I think this bleach "myth" got started with the Spencer Class Action Lawsuit over polybutylene (PB) plumbing used in the late 1990's - early 2000's. Apparently, even the very low levels of chlorine from water filtration plants could disintegrate PB.

However, the plumbing now used in RVs is ABS or polyethylene, neither of which is affected by bleach.

The seals in black & gray tank valves are probably Santoprene, also not affected by bleach.

The only seal that could be affected is the one used in the toilet ball valve. It's natural rubber so you wouldn't want to pour bleach in the toilet and let it sit.

So using bleach won't melt your RV plumbing or cause a World War I style mustard gas attack.

do you have a washing machine if so your trap is dry letting the odor in.

TechWriter wrote:

old guy wrote:
hate to tell you this but bleach and urine do not mix very well.

Please explain.

For one thing too much bleach can ruin the seals in your septic lines / tank

viajante wrote:
I have tried many products over the years. The absolute best is Happy Camper. No odors or clogs at all.

Yep, I just discovered it after a recommendation. After 3 weeks of use it has even cleaned the badly fouled tank sensors and I'm slowly getting accurate readings again. It seems (to me) that it works best if you allow the tank to get as full as possible before dumping so that it can digest all the carp from the tank walls.

Side benefit of a black tank completely odor free.

Thanks all!

the geo method solved my problem

I have tried many products over the years. The absolute best is Happy Camper. No odors or clogs at all.