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Oct 03, 2013

Tires again

Getting ready to get new steer tires, maybe.. These are 5 1/2 years old by manufacture date and we hate to head South for the winter on them, are we being foolish?? They are GY 670.. I can't see the price for Michelins.. We won't get GY's again.. We didn't, so far, have any trouble with them, except we couldn't get them to run smooth.. What's anyones thoughts.. Thanks for your replies.. Mike Mathews..
They are covered all the time we're parked, and treated with 303 about every 5 or 6 months..
We winter in Florida most of the time, we have been to Texas and would like to go back..
Size is 275x70x22.5 H rated..
Just got a quote for Hankook at $500 each out the door.. Bridgestone $829.23 each..
Michelin start out at $738 with the FMCA discount without add-ons and we're having trouble finding a dealer that will do this..
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  • JohnnyT's avatar
    JohnnyT
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    Oct 08, 2013
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    Thanks Bob, that is another form of insurance, one that is increasingly valuable as the tires age.

    Johnny
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    JohnnyT
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    Oct 08, 2013
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    The Texan wrote:
    The dealer that sold and installed my tires will pull them and check them for 5 years, for less than the cost of 1 new tire.....So, to me, it is a no brainer to get them inspected, instead of arbitrarily throwing money out the window.


    Just to be clear, you are having all your tires pulled and inspected every year for 5 years and the cost for doing this is less than the cost of a single tire?

    JohnnyT Moderator
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    cloudnine
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    Oct 08, 2013
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    I have enjoyed reading this thread. I recently had a blowout on the steer axle of my 36 foot Holladay Rambler running 2 1/2 year old Good Year G670s. It was a 70 degree day on a nice Highway at 65 mph. I was able to pull rite off to the shoulder so the tire stayed together. Visual inspection of the tire revealed that the sidewall had blown out in about a 2 by 2 section. I shared this with yall for a couple of reasons. 1. As much of a piece of mind new tires give you. You can still have tire failure. These G670s that I am running still have the excess mold rubber between the grooves. Somewhere around 3 or 4 thousand miles. 2. When I am paying over 400 dollars for a single tire I want one the manufacture is going to stand behind. And thus far my strongly worded letter to Goodyear has gotten me no where! 3. I think a good rule of thumb is to go with what has worked for you in the past. I have had several sets of Hankooks on my cars and have been very happy with them. So that's what will be going on the RV Unless Goodyear decides they are tired of loosing market share to companies who are willing to stand behind there product.
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    The_Texan
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    The dealer that sold and installed my tires will pull them and check them for 5 years, for less than the cost of 1 new tire.....So, to me, it is a no brainer to get them inspected, instead of arbitrarily throwing money out the window.
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    Impeyan
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    Oct 08, 2013
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    belfert wrote:
    The OP already replaced his tires, but it wouldn't phase me in the least to run on 5 1/2 year old tires as long as the sidewalls were not cracking. I'm still running tires that are 7 years old. I took my motorhome to a commercial tire shop a month ago and they said my tires should still be good for another year or two.


    Belfert, What does it cost to have tires inspected at a commercial tire shop ? The tires would have to be removed from the rims of course for a complete tire inspection. At some point after 2 or 3 of these inspections, I would opt for new tires I think.
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    belfert
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    The OP already replaced his tires, but it wouldn't phase me in the least to run on 5 1/2 year old tires as long as the sidewalls were not cracking. I'm still running tires that are 7 years old. I took my motorhome to a commercial tire shop a month ago and they said my tires should still be good for another year or two.
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    RFCN2 wrote:
    tropical36 - There are many many tire makers in the US. I do not think that will change. I have no issue with tires made in the USA with non-USA ownership. Like BF Goodrich, Firestone, Michelin, and so on. I do think for something as important to your safety as tires it is better to stick with factories that are here. Korea has not really hot places either. If Korean tire makers build them here I have no problems with them. People like Goodyear and Michelin test their tires in desert heat.

    I have bought several Hondas. My only regret is that I foolishly sold my 2004 S2000 a couple years back. A wonderful sports car.

    One might also wonder and be concerned with what testing takes place with any of them before the DOT stamp goes on. I've never heard where US made tires, far exceed the min requirements for DOT approval or where the ones that are made overseas are exempt from these requirements and/or inspections.
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    RFCN2
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    tropical36 - There are many many tire makers in the US. I do not think that will change. I have no issue with tires made in the USA with non-USA ownership. Like BF Goodrich, Firestone, Michelin, and so on. I do think for something as important to your safety as tires it is better to stick with factories that are here. Korea has not really hot places either. If Korean tire makers build them here I have no problems with them. People like Goodyear and Michelin test their tires in desert heat.

    I have bought several Hondas. My only regret is that I foolishly sold my 2004 S2000 a couple years back. A wonderful sports car.
  • John_Joey's avatar
    John_Joey
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    mscamping wrote:
    ..snip...What's anyones thoughts.. Thanks for your replies.. Mike Mathews....


    I think it's too soon, but if you plan on selling the rig in five years why not enjoy new tires now and the peace of mind they will give you.

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They are covered all the time we're parked, and treated with 303 about every 5 or 6 months..
We winter in Florida most of the time, we have been to Texas and would like to go back..
Size is 275x70x22.5 H rated..
Just got a quote for Hankook at $500 each out the door.. Bridgestone $829.23 each..
Michelin start out at $738 with the FMCA discount without add-ons and we're having trouble finding a dealer that will do this..","body@stringLength":"854","rawBody":"Getting ready to get new steer tires, maybe.. These are 5 1/2 years old by manufacture date and we hate to head South for the winter on them, are we being foolish?? They are GY 670.. I can't see the price for Michelins.. We won't get GY's again.. We didn't, so far, have any trouble with them, except we couldn't get them to run smooth.. What's anyones thoughts.. Thanks for your replies.. Mike Mathews..
They are covered all the time we're parked, and treated with 303 about every 5 or 6 months..
We winter in Florida most of the time, we have been to Texas and would like to go back..
Size is 275x70x22.5 H rated..
Just got a quote for Hankook at $500 each out the door.. Bridgestone $829.23 each..
Michelin start out at $738 with the FMCA discount without add-ons and we're having trouble finding a dealer that will do this..","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2013-10-03T07:37:00.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:Class A","text":"Class A","time":"2002-04-24T11:23:54.000-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:742862_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":8364},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"searchSnippet":"Getting ready to get new steer tires, maybe.. 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The Texan wrote:
The dealer that sold and installed my tires will pull them and check them for 5 years, for less than the cost of 1 new tire.....So, to me, it is a no brainer to get them inspected, instead of arbitrarily throwing money out the window.


Just to be clear, you are having all your tires pulled and inspected every year for 5 years and the cost for doing this is less than the cost of a single tire?

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The Texan wrote:
The dealer that sold and installed my tires will pull them and check them for 5 years, for less than the cost of 1 new tire.....So, to me, it is a no brainer to get them inspected, instead of arbitrarily throwing money out the window.


Just to be clear, you are having all your tires pulled and inspected every year for 5 years and the cost for doing this is less than the cost of a single tire?

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I recently had a blowout on the steer axle of my 36 foot Holladay Rambler running 2 1/2 year old Good Year G670s. It was a 70 degree day on a nice Highway at 65 mph. I was able to pull rite off to the shoulder so the tire stayed together. Visual inspection of the tire revealed that the sidewall had blown out in about a 2 by 2 section. I shared this with yall for a couple of reasons. 1. As much of a piece of mind new tires give you. You can still have tire failure. These G670s that I am running still have the excess mold rubber between the grooves. Somewhere around 3 or 4 thousand miles. 2. When I am paying over 400 dollars for a single tire I want one the manufacture is going to stand behind. And thus far my strongly worded letter to Goodyear has gotten me no where! 3. I think a good rule of thumb is to go with what has worked for you in the past. I have had several sets of Hankooks on my cars and have been very happy with them. So that's what will be going on the RV Unless Goodyear decides they are tired of loosing market share to companies who are willing to stand behind there product.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-10-08T14:35:42.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-10-08T14:35:42.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":427},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:742862/message:742898","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1140","rawBody":"I have enjoyed reading this thread. I recently had a blowout on the steer axle of my 36 foot Holladay Rambler running 2 1/2 year old Good Year G670s. It was a 70 degree day on a nice Highway at 65 mph. I was able to pull rite off to the shoulder so the tire stayed together. Visual inspection of the tire revealed that the sidewall had blown out in about a 2 by 2 section. I shared this with yall for a couple of reasons. 1. As much of a piece of mind new tires give you. You can still have tire failure. These G670s that I am running still have the excess mold rubber between the grooves. Somewhere around 3 or 4 thousand miles. 2. When I am paying over 400 dollars for a single tire I want one the manufacture is going to stand behind. And thus far my strongly worded letter to Goodyear has gotten me no where! 3. I think a good rule of thumb is to go with what has worked for you in the past. I have had several sets of Hankooks on my cars and have been very happy with them. So that's what will be going on the RV Unless Goodyear decides they are tired of loosing market share to companies who are willing to stand behind there product.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:742898_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:742897":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:742897","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:742897":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:217879"},"id":"message:742897","revisionNum":1,"uid":742897,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:742862"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:742862"},"subject":"Re: Tires again","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:742897"},"body":"The dealer that sold and installed my tires will pull them and check them for 5 years, for less than the cost of 1 new tire.....So, to me, it is a no brainer to get them inspected, instead of arbitrarily throwing money out the window.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-10-08T13:28:46.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-10-08T13:28:46.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":427},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:742862/message:742897","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"235","rawBody":"The dealer that sold and installed my tires will pull them and check them for 5 years, for less than the cost of 1 new tire.....So, to me, it is a no brainer to get them inspected, instead of arbitrarily throwing money out the window.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:742897_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:283571":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:283571","uid":283571,"login":"Impeyan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-03-04T19:29:07.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:283571"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:742896":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:742896","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:742896":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:283571"},"id":"message:742896","revisionNum":1,"uid":742896,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:742862"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:742862"},"subject":"Re: Tires again","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:742896"},"body":"
belfert wrote:
The OP already replaced his tires, but it wouldn't phase me in the least to run on 5 1/2 year old tires as long as the sidewalls were not cracking. I'm still running tires that are 7 years old. I took my motorhome to a commercial tire shop a month ago and they said my tires should still be good for another year or two.


Belfert, What does it cost to have tires inspected at a commercial tire shop ? The tires would have to be removed from the rims of course for a complete tire inspection. At some point after 2 or 3 of these inspections, I would opt for new tires I think.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-10-08T13:14:01.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-10-08T13:14:01.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:742862/message:742896","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"632","rawBody":"
belfert wrote:
The OP already replaced his tires, but it wouldn't phase me in the least to run on 5 1/2 year old tires as long as the sidewalls were not cracking. I'm still running tires that are 7 years old. I took my motorhome to a commercial tire shop a month ago and they said my tires should still be good for another year or two.


Belfert, What does it cost to have tires inspected at a commercial tire shop ? The tires would have to be removed from the rims of course for a complete tire inspection. At some point after 2 or 3 of these inspections, I would opt for new tires I think.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:742896_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:142503":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:142503","uid":142503,"login":"belfert","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-10-06T08:27:35.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:142503"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:742895":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:742895","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:742895":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:142503"},"id":"message:742895","revisionNum":1,"uid":742895,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:742862"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:742862"},"subject":"Re: Tires again","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:742895"},"body":"The OP already replaced his tires, but it wouldn't phase me in the least to run on 5 1/2 year old tires as long as the sidewalls were not cracking. I'm still running tires that are 7 years old. I took my motorhome to a commercial tire shop a month ago and they said my tires should still be good for another year or two.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-10-08T13:03:11.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-10-08T13:03:11.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:742862/message:742895","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"322","rawBody":"The OP already replaced his tires, but it wouldn't phase me in the least to run on 5 1/2 year old tires as long as the sidewalls were not cracking. I'm still running tires that are 7 years old. I took my motorhome to a commercial tire shop a month ago and they said my tires should still be good for another year or two.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:742895_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:1241":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1241","uid":1241,"login":"tropical36","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-07-11T20:20:43.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1241"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:742894":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:742894","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:742894":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1241"},"id":"message:742894","revisionNum":1,"uid":742894,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:742862"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:742862"},"subject":"Re: Tires again","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:742894"},"body":"
RFCN2 wrote:
tropical36 - There are many many tire makers in the US. I do not think that will change. I have no issue with tires made in the USA with non-USA ownership. Like BF Goodrich, Firestone, Michelin, and so on. I do think for something as important to your safety as tires it is better to stick with factories that are here. Korea has not really hot places either. If Korean tire makers build them here I have no problems with them. People like Goodyear and Michelin test their tires in desert heat.

I have bought several Hondas. My only regret is that I foolishly sold my 2004 S2000 a couple years back. A wonderful sports car.

One might also wonder and be concerned with what testing takes place with any of them before the DOT stamp goes on. I've never heard where US made tires, far exceed the min requirements for DOT approval or where the ones that are made overseas are exempt from these requirements and/or inspections.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-10-08T06:58:57.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-10-08T06:58:57.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":427},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:742862/message:742894","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"992","rawBody":"
RFCN2 wrote:
tropical36 - There are many many tire makers in the US. I do not think that will change. I have no issue with tires made in the USA with non-USA ownership. Like BF Goodrich, Firestone, Michelin, and so on. I do think for something as important to your safety as tires it is better to stick with factories that are here. Korea has not really hot places either. If Korean tire makers build them here I have no problems with them. People like Goodyear and Michelin test their tires in desert heat.

I have bought several Hondas. My only regret is that I foolishly sold my 2004 S2000 a couple years back. A wonderful sports car.

One might also wonder and be concerned with what testing takes place with any of them before the DOT stamp goes on. I've never heard where US made tires, far exceed the min requirements for DOT approval or where the ones that are made overseas are exempt from these requirements and/or inspections.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:742894_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:20425":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:20425","uid":20425,"login":"RFCN2","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-05-29T19:13:10.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:20425"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:742893":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:742893","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:742893":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:20425"},"id":"message:742893","revisionNum":1,"uid":742893,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:742862"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:742862"},"subject":"Re: Tires again","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:742893"},"body":"tropical36 - There are many many tire makers in the US. I do not think that will change. I have no issue with tires made in the USA with non-USA ownership. Like BF Goodrich, Firestone, Michelin, and so on. I do think for something as important to your safety as tires it is better to stick with factories that are here. Korea has not really hot places either. If Korean tire makers build them here I have no problems with them. People like Goodyear and Michelin test their tires in desert heat.

I have bought several Hondas. My only regret is that I foolishly sold my 2004 S2000 a couple years back. A wonderful sports car.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-10-07T19:27:09.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-10-07T19:27:09.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:742862/message:742893","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"645","rawBody":"tropical36 - There are many many tire makers in the US. I do not think that will change. I have no issue with tires made in the USA with non-USA ownership. Like BF Goodrich, Firestone, Michelin, and so on. I do think for something as important to your safety as tires it is better to stick with factories that are here. Korea has not really hot places either. If Korean tire makers build them here I have no problems with them. People like Goodyear and Michelin test their tires in desert heat.

I have bought several Hondas. My only regret is that I foolishly sold my 2004 S2000 a couple years back. A wonderful sports car.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:742893_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:275723":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:275723","uid":275723,"login":"John_Joey","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-05-20T10:41:18.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:275723"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:742892":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:742892","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:742892":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:275723"},"id":"message:742892","revisionNum":1,"uid":742892,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:742862"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:742862"},"subject":"Re: Tires again","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:742892"},"body":"
mscamping wrote:
..snip...What's anyones thoughts.. Thanks for your replies.. Mike Mathews....


I think it's too soon, but if you plan on selling the rig in five years why not enjoy new tires now and the peace of mind they will give you.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-10-07T09:07:33.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-10-07T09:07:33.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:742862/message:742892","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"277","rawBody":"
mscamping wrote:
..snip...What's anyones thoughts.. Thanks for your replies.. Mike Mathews....


I think it's too soon, but if you plan on selling the rig in five years why not enjoy new tires now and the peace of mind they will give you.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:742892_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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