up grade camper pull..for a class C

And you get a higher tow rating (mine's 10,000 lbs) and a diesel in the Super-C package too.

I wasn't aware of an E450 with diesel. Coachmen doesn't list one on their website.

Wow...thank you men....good report most 22, ty

I elected for the Coachman Concord with 2 slides and a Diesel, on the E-450. I have taken several trips around the US with a very good MPG and lots of power.
But that being said the one you select will be the one you want, until you decide to go bigger or better. Just my thoughts.

thanks , ron, mits..onzo

Since 1950panman stated "need lots of floor space", I would assume he is looking for the longest, widest rig with as many slide outs as he can get. That translates into "weight" which means the Ford E450 chassis will be his best choice for it handles the most weight of them all.

Now if he wants to go the next step and consider a super-C which is a C built on a truck chassis like pictured below, then that opens up many bigger options yet. If purchase price is concerning, it seems there are a few out there that are not so much more expensive than a standard C in similar sizes, like a Nexus Phantom Super C diesel with MSRP starting at $117,000. I believe their factory direct pricing will be much less, maybe $12k-$17k more than the largest FR Sunseeker. It may be made better and bigger too.

I stopped by a FR dealer, and if you want one of their rigs, it will be a blue oval. I wondered why no GMs, so I'm guessing the above -- more Colorados and Suburbans, fewer 4500 chassis. To me, does it matter? I'm used to Ford, but nothing wrong with Chevy/GMC.

As for Sprinters, this discussion has been hashed out a bit. The two biggest disadvantages for that chassis is the price (usually $10-25k above a Ford or Chevy), and the lack of repair places in a lot of areas.

As for Dodge, the older Sprinters, I'd lump in with Mercedes. The newer ProMasters are a different beast entirely. Downside of the ProMasters is their anemic cargo capacity, so they wind up being used for only light, slideless rigs like the Winnebago Trend.

Of course, don't forget the curveball that will be smacking the "C" industry in the face in several years. Ford should have the heavier duty (T-450, T-550) Transit based cutaways out in a year or two. These will replace the Econolines... but as far as I know, -nobody- knows what engine choices these models will have. Perhaps a diesel, maybe an EcoBoost... who knows.

As of now, I have looked at almost everything out there. Nothing against Sprinters, but I don't see anything it provides that the E-450 doesn't... the cost difference can buy a lot of gas, and the Ford V-10, once it is out of warranty, has a whole slew of aftermarket stuff that can be done with it.

I will say I've seen E-350/E-450 rigs in extremely sad shape. However, they start up and run even though the radiator is likely shot, the gas has water in it, the oil is sludge, and who knows what is passing through the air filter.

I do like the recent updates to the latest model Fords as well. Especially with 7500 pounds available on the hitch, which comes in handy.

Better check the tow weight limits for your prospective TV.

I like three steps in and the 7k tow capacity of my rig. Floor space is in the eyes of the beholder.

Last rig was a 36ft Damon Challenger.

Forest River is great, with good floor planes, but you won't get a Chevy as they can't get them. Chevy is too busy building Colarados

Forest River is great, with good floor planes, but you won't get a Chevy as they can't get them. Chevy is too busy building Colarados