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Schnauzerlvr
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Dec 02, 2013

Used Class C's or New Ones

We have looked at 2014 Chateau's(Thor) and find them to be quite nice. I previously had a 2005 Concord Coachmen B+. It was a 25 footer and of course only slept 2 because of the layout.
We also were looking at used Class C's. 2010 Triple E Regal C24; 2011 Winnebago Access 24 V.
Does anyone have any suggestions about buying used with low mileage or going for the new one's. What are the pro's and con's? Are the Thor units reliable? Let me know what types of Class C's you think are best.
Thanks for your help.
Charlene:h
  • Schnauzerlvr wrote:
    Is there anywhere special we can look up private sales of RV's. Online, newspaper, etc.


    I used Craigslist and rvtrader.com to find mine.
  • I have had good luck on RV Trader both in buying and selling, www.rvt.com
    Thanks for letting me know where you live. We are also in cold country, northern Nevada, snow this morning and never got much over freezing, down in the teens or lower (F) tonight. Dick

    here is a another forum I follow that has a for sale & wanted board.
    http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/board,32.0.html
  • In 2010, we purchased a new Airstream TT (Thor by the way) and had nothing but problems and it was in for warranty work almost more than we used it. Then went to used Forest River Lexington that was a 2007, two owners, thought it was a good unit, only to find several problems that we paid a lot of money for. We thought that with low miles, it meant a good deal (Well other things considered also, not just mileage), and we were fooled. So then we decided to go the WInnebago route on the advice of several of our RVing friends….and so glad we did!! Bought a new Winnebago Aspect this year and have been so pleased with this unit…
    I guess the moral to the story is no matter if its used or new, there may be problems and in our opinion, new means warranty as RV repairs can be costly. If you like a unit that you find, find another RV'r to go thru it and they may see things you don't.
    Good luck in your endeavor and safe travels. Andi
  • Some good points on this thread. Since we are talking about more than just new RV's I have learned some stuff in my experience of buying a much older RV.

    If you are very handy and know your way around construction, welding and auto repair an older MH can be a good fit. I have put in a ton of work into my 1983, but I feel my efforts have been very worthwhile. Paying someone for all the work I have done would have cost a good $10K+ on top of what I have actually spent on the coach. So if we are talking $ value of initial purchase price, upgrade parts and labor, that's over $20K in total value.

    Around here, $20- $25k can get you a 10 or so year old RV in great shape. I can understand wanting something brand new, with a floor plan you really like. However, if you can find something used with a floor plan you really like, is it really worth a $50K+ premium to buy brand new? If there is a concern with buying used, a PPI from a local dealer is a great option. They know where to look and can help you spot trouble.

    Looking at it another way ... I can afford new cars, but have only bought one. The value just isn't there when buying brand new, so I buy used because I am a mechanic and know what I am looking at. Given the problems some other folks have experienced with their brand new RV's, I am pretty happy overall with my chosen option. I have an RV that I am increasingly happy with and I didn't spend $25K (or WAY more if buying at the higher end) to try something out.

    I suppose that if you want to finance your RV then loan limitations will lock you into a specific age and price range of RV's. But if you have the cash to buy something up to around $40K, then I see way more value in buying a used RV that has been thoroughly inspected.

    Jose
  • Snowman9000 wrote:
    I see your location is Cochrane. If you mean up in the Great White North, then I am not sure if my pricing comments will apply to your situation.

    What I have found here in the US is that aggressive dealers will price new ones closely enough to prices of 1,2,3 year old units that it doesn't pay to buy the used ones. RV pricing is very cloudy here, and I'm sure dealers like it that way. The MSRP's are very inflated. If a unit has MSRP of $70K, there will be some buyers who pay in the 60's, some in the 50's, and some in the 40's, even down to the mid and lower 40's. Of course, bringing a trade-in to the deal makes it even cloudier.

    We were looking for a unit that happens to be one of the lines handled by RVDirect.com. Their prices are super low. You can request a quote from them by email, with very little hassle. If you choose not to buy from them, you can use their price to get your dealer down. We did just that, and had 3 dealers become very competitive. Two of them beat the RVDirect price, and we ordered from one of them. We got 38% off the MSRP, but I believe our particular model has an extra amount of room built into the price for some reason. You will not see the real low prices advertised. You have to get the dealers bidding for your business, then the prices drop substantially. Using the RVDirect quote is simple and painless.

    I'm mentioning this because sellers of late model used ones were asking more than we are paying new. That is the situation in the most popular part of the market, brands like Winnebago, Jayco, Coachmen, Four Winds, Sunseeker. But it probably doesn't happen in the boutique brands like Triple E, Born Free, etc., because those brands are sold new at much higher prices.

    We ordered a Sunseeker, on a Chevy chassis. It's a middle of the road brand, but I feel the quality is pretty good. They use good materials and equipment, and the several we've been in have been well designed and put together. Owners seem satsified. I think the main brands are all going to be decent, but they all do have typical RV cost cutting somewhere. I feel like Winnebago has slightly better build quality, but not so much better than the Sunseeker we ordered to make us buy a Winnebago for more money instead.

    OK, my morning ramble is complete. :)


    Unless you're buying a used unit, then no, you don't get much if any of a discount on the boutique brands you mentioned.

    In fact, Born Free is non-negotiable on their list prices on'line. I would add Nexus to the boutiqueish list of units to probably avoid too, for the simple fact that these are very small operations that could close down in the wink of an eye, leaving you with an "orphaned brand," that you paid an arm and a leg for.

    All the high-line Class C brands rave on about their quality - but frankly, after 10 years with a Born Free where almost everything imaginable has broken at least once on, and (6) roof and siding rainwater leaks, I would avoid them like the plague. I would instead buy a new, reasonably priced brand coach.
  • Joe

    Your BF story was a big shock when I 1st say you mention it a while back.

    It goes to show how marketing can go a LONG way to create an unreal image. They pass themselves off much like AARP does to the aging folks; now I know both to be overpriced business.

    The factory visit comes as a real shocker, given their touting it so much in the past.

    Your points on boutique RVs are well taken. A good reputable volume builder makes sense.
  • We have a Thor Chateau that we bought brand new earlier this year. Spent around 25-30 nights in it this year and no problems. We had a sprinter select TT before that for a few years and it's made by keystone (Thor) and had only a couple problems that were not related to manufacturing but products (Jensen). They were corrected with the warranty. We were very happy.

    We attempted to try and go the used route. The main issue we had was that every unit we went in had an unpleasant odor. Secondly, we didn't want to adopt possible other peoples problems. An rv is meant to enjoy and relax. The possibility of having problems and having to get it fixed ourselves and out of our on pocket takes away from the relaxing experience. It's much better for us that if we have an issue, that it will be taken care of and by an expert. And yes we have an ESP.