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- mkguitarExplorerI gotta ask, why shortest?
the only advantage I can see is parking--- with a longer/wider you may have to park farther and walk to the store.
but you still have height restrictions and once you punch a hole in the air, MPG isn;t much affected by vehicle length
a shorter wheelbase will have a rougher ride
interior space is lessened.
so please, why?
mike - avantiExplorer
RobertRyan wrote:
Can easily parked in underground shopping centres
Opens up all kinds of new possibilities for stealth camping. :) - RobertRyanExplorerMy sister is getting a similar conversion built. Can easily parked in underground shopping centres
Here is interior of TRAKKA - tatestExplorer II
RobertRyan wrote:
These may come to the U.S., AWD, with a 2litre Diesel
VW would have to take the parent van through the DOT and EPA certifications in order for someone to import the conversions. VW did so for the T4, but stopped importing when the passenger van failed to gain market share against our large minivans, VW pulled the Transporter out of the U.S. in 2004 and started importing their own minivan instead.
It was hard to make the commercial T4 van competitive with the "chicken tax" (a 25% tariff retaliating against an EU tariff). There have been discussions lately about ending this particular tariff, but a similar effort in 2009 got nowhere (we can't discuss the politics of that here).
Current "import" trucks being sold in the U.S. are either being assembled in North America, or they are being imported as passenger vehicles and converted to trucks on arrival (e.g. take the seats out).
It would be nice to have the Transporter here again. I would have bought one instead of my Ford E-series. - RobertRyanExplorerThese may come to the U.S., AWD, with a 2litre Diesel
- John___AngelaExplorer
tatest wrote:
VW T4 Westfalia was imported by Winnebago 1995-2003 as Eurovan Camper. They used the long wheelbase version, 201 inches overall length.
Since 2007, the standard wheelbase Express van has been 224 inches overall length, the standard length E-series 212 inches through 2008, 217 inches with the nose stretch for more crush space in 2009. The standard length RAM 2500 van was a bit shorter than Express and E-series, at 205 inches but production stopped in 2003, before your cutoff.
Ford, Chevy, and Dodge all once built vans under 180 inches (15 feet) but Ford and Chevy discontinued those before Chevy Van became Express and Econoline became E-series. Dodge built the RAM 1500 as a short van to the end, but I think it was only as a wagon, and any Class B would have been a custom conversion.
Nissan's full size van is not a shortest candidate, at 240 inches.
PleasureWay built the Traverse campervan on the standard length E-series.
Roadtrek builds some models (170 for sure) on the short wheelbase Express. Other manufacturers may also have a lower cost short model.
You will find used Sportmobile conversions on the standard length vans, these are all built to customer choice, and many choose the shorter length for a purpose. Sportmobiles might be built as B motorhomes, or as camper vans, or in other custom configurations (band vans, mobile offices, workshops, etc), so in looking to buy used you need to find out just what it actually is.
I have friends with Westfalia campers, second generation T2, Vanagon, and Eurovan models. They like them for getting well into the forests where the roads are narrow and parking spaces small. But they are really more for camping support, not for a motorhome lifestyle.
Lots of good info I'll forward on. Thankyou for taking the time to type it all out. - tatestExplorer IIVW T4 Westfalia was imported by Winnebago 1995-2003 as Eurovan Camper. They used the long wheelbase version, 201 inches overall length.
Since 2007, the standard wheelbase Express van has been 224 inches overall length, the standard length E-series 212 inches through 2008, 217 inches with the nose stretch for more crush space in 2009. The standard length RAM 2500 van was a bit shorter than Express and E-series, at 205 inches but production stopped in 2003, before your cutoff.
Ford, Chevy, and Dodge all once built vans under 180 inches (15 feet) but Ford and Chevy discontinued those before Chevy Van became Express and Econoline became E-series. Dodge built the RAM 1500 as a short van to the end, but I think it was only as a wagon, and any Class B would have been a custom conversion.
Nissan's full size van is not a shortest candidate, at 240 inches.
PleasureWay built the Traverse campervan on the standard length E-series.
Roadtrek builds some models (170 for sure) on the short wheelbase Express. Other manufacturers may also have a lower cost short model.
You will find used Sportmobile conversions on the standard length vans, these are all built to customer choice, and many choose the shorter length for a purpose. Sportmobiles might be built as B motorhomes, or as camper vans, or in other custom configurations (band vans, mobile offices, workshops, etc), so in looking to buy used you need to find out just what it actually is.
I have friends with Westfalia campers, second generation T2, Vanagon, and Eurovan models. They like them for getting well into the forests where the roads are narrow and parking spaces small. But they are really more for camping support, not for a motorhome lifestyle. - gerrym51Explorer II
gerrym51 wrote:
agile is 19 feet 5 inches
if your really serious about short-then a sportsmobile built on shortest promaster - gerrym51Explorer IIagile is 19 feet 5 inches
- John___AngelaExplorerSaw the Illusion while camping in Bryce last fall. I think that would work for them. Wonder if it can be towed for down.
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