The point I was trying to make is that there are obvious, grevious errors that HAVE to be noticed by those building them and no effort to fix it, no effort to keep it from happening again, and no effort on PDI to find it and disclose it. Mistakes are ignored. I am not talking about a lack of machinery or efficiency, I am talking about good old fashion screw ups by people that get an intentional blind eye to keep them going out the door. Workers don't care, the company doesn't care and the dealership doesn't care. It's all about finding the buyer who overlooks it or accepts it. Quantity not quality and it's worse in the RV industry than any other products I've seen.