Trash Trash Trash

fla-gypsy wrote:


Well let me grab a few statements for you;

"My thoughts are that the folks who only go camping on the 3-day weekends are not the folks who care about the beauty of their environment"

"X2 on the three day campers possibly from the big city where trash is a way of life."

No I wasnt generalizing, I was using the statements some of you typed.
It's one thing to say you don't go on weekends/holidays because it is crowded. It is quite another to blame all trashy behavior and rude behavior on those that can only camp during those times. I was at a very busy CG over the weekend and the behavior was excellent.

Yes, you are generalizing! You're lumping all the posts together as one view point. Please get your facts straight! I did not say either of those things. Other posters did. I do not completely share their views. My posts are my personal views.

Here's my post since you didn't bother to actually read it:

Campfire Time wrote:
This has always been a problem in very popular places near populous areas. The wonderful thing about being "empty nesters" is that we can avoid the party weekends. So for the most part we don't encounter the "trash people". 3Oaks, that's not to say that all are slobs, I get what you are saying, but in my observation in nearly 30 years of doing this is that there seems to be this mentality among those going on 3 day holiday weekends, that "I must have a good time" at any cost.

One way to avoid seeing a lot of this is to go hiking or biking on off road trails. People who are there to party generally don't like to put physical effort into things, so all you'll encounter on the trails is like minded people.

That said every place we've been to that caters to hikers and true outdoors people does not seem to have this issue.

I'll leap in with a generalization. There is a large cultural element to how "garbage" is taken care of. During our winter travels in the southern US over the last 4 years we were amazed that there is very little to no recycling capability anywhere we travelled. Whatever is used up goes to garbage - or is simply left behind.
This was the case in private and state parks.
In our area you can recycle almost everything - paper, plastic, metals, cardboard,glass,styrofoam.
I think that until society as a whole makes a clear push to not treat all used items as trash the problems will continue.
I hope to see more recycling opportunities in future travels.

owenssailor wrote:
I'll leap in with a generalization. There is a large cultural element to how "garbage" is taken care of. During our winter travels in the southern US over the last 4 years we were amazed that there is very little to no recycling capability anywhere we travelled. Whatever is used up goes to garbage - or is simply left behind.
This was the case in private and state parks.
In our area you can recycle almost everything - paper, plastic, metals, cardboard,glass,styrofoam.
I think that until society as a whole makes a clear push to not treat all used items as trash the problems will continue.
I hope to see more recycling opportunities in future travels.

I was at an rv park in the San Francisco bay are that had composting! It's part of the city garbage pick up -- trash, recycling, and compost :).

In my years of camping we have discovered the closer you are to the city you get more trash, misuse and noise from campers. It appears to us that the easier campers who are not serious outdoor folk that can drive a hour or 2 have less respect. So when we go camping we like finding places as far away as possible from city lights for this reason.

I am lucky to live in a area that we don't see a lot of these issues. I have lived in states where is seem to be much worst than other areas.

Thanks for helping cleaning up the trash.