Cats & Carbs

WandaLust2 wrote:

dturm wrote:
I thought I’d update you all on some current information I got at the AVMA meeting.
Over time, many have commented on grain and carbohydrates (diets that .....

Why are the links concerning cats being obligate carnovores I post constantly being removed? No other forum removes helpful links, sites by Veterinarians. Must we all agree with you and have no discussion here?

You just don’t get it. We’ve been going back and forth for a considerable time and you just refuse to change your pattern.

This forum is provided to allow the free exchange of information and ideas within the guidelines stated when you signed up. Your posts consistently promote an agenda while disparaging those with opposing ideas or opinions. I will continue to delete those without comment.

Concerning your recent flood of posts:
To dismiss research done by professionals because some funding (by way of grants to university veterinary schools to provide for resident positions in nutrition) is ludicrous. By your reasoning, none of the information given on any of the sites you reference should be of value because they sell things there and undoubtedly get income from the ads on the sites.

If society dismissed research and advancement made by companies that earn a profit, we’d still be without electricity (Thomas Edison – General Electric, Westinghouse), phones and computers (Alexander Graham Bell- Bell Labs) and we’d be practicing medicine like we did in the Civil War.

What is appropriate is to really evaluate ALL the information that is out there and make an informed decision based on the totality, ranking the evidence based on reliability and value.

You frequently cite web sites and blogs that are slick and full of opinion without any supporting research. Their conclusions are based on other individuals and web sites that basically agree with them.

The catinfo site in particular is produced by a veterinarian with no specialized training in nutrition. I have the same veterinary training and more years of experience than she, should my opinion be valued more?

I think not, but looking at other opinions of people who have post-doctorate training and spend their daily lives evaluating animal nutrition is probably more valuable. This is why I share the information.

Too often in our society today, people form an opinion and then search for “FACTS” that support their opinion. The internet makes this particularly easy, after all they can’t put anything on the internet that isn’t true :B

You undoubtedly will be able to find dozens if not hundreds of web sites that promote your opinion, but those sites seldom offer real research data, but rather offer opinion and circular reasoning that refers to each other.

I don’t remember if I’ve told this story before, I apologize if this is a repeat.

At my vet school graduation (36 years ago) I was pretty scattered taking state and national board exams, finals in my last block, getting a job and preparing to move.

But I do remember our graduation speaker and something has stuck all these years.

He gave the line “I’ve got good news and bad news.”
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50% of what we just taught you is wrong …. (pause) That’s the good news.

The bad news is we don’t know which 50%.

I have a real problem with people that know THE answer and dismiss anyone else that has a differing opinion or experience. I’ll continue to moderate this forum with that in mind, offering my opinions and experiences.

I will delete (or correct) posts that are wrong to the point of being dangerous to animals or their owners.

If you are not comfortable with that, I invite you to stop posting.

Doug, DVM

PS this post is technically flaming, but I'm not going to delete it. If admin chooses to, so be it.