FDA is asking "US"-dog owners, on national TV tonight"....Why approx 600 dogs have died and around 3,000 have become ill aftereating jerky treats from China made of chicken, duck, sweet potato.???? :S:SIsn't that THEIR job? :(The world 'has' gone crazy. Costa Rica that's the place to be. :C

Not sure how the FDA could do that.

To start with when a dog food manufacturer "voluntarily" recalls these treats because dogs are dieing to 'avoid' an investigation by the FDA.........the FDA needs to change their procedures to go in and start a report on it and investigate on the 'voluntary recall' level. Not sit on the sidelines until thousands die like the melamine disaster.That's the giant hole. Look how many "voluntary" recalls of these jerky treats since 2007 and the illness and deaths reported. All 'voluntary recalls' which keeps the FDA at bay.You'd THINK the FDA would have a clue something BAD is in these treats.Bottom line any pet owner feeding anything to their dogs made in China should be rethinking the safety of their pet.If pet owners would just STOP buying these damn treats made in China is another answer to the problem.The other thing that comes to mind for me when FDA says they can't find anything in the tested jerky products is............wait for it.......A common thread with all these dogs fed jerky treats is they are all fed 'dog food' every day and the same days they are fed jerky treats. Perhaps different brands but none the less dog food.IMHO, JMHO when a dog dies and they say they fed jerky treats and FDA can't find anything in the jerky treats? FDA should automatically test each one of those deceased dogs dog food.http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2013/10/jerky_treats_making_dogs_and_c.html

rockhillmanor wrote:If pet owners would just STOP buying these damn treats made in China is another answer to the problem.That would do it.

2oldman wrote:rockhillmanor wrote:If pet owners would just STOP buying these damn treats made in China is another answer to the problem.That would do it.X 3

I read every package careful before buying..if it is not made in Canada or the US I won't buy it...I sent a question to a company in the US thats product is made in China ...the email I got back from them assuring me that all the ingredients were US graded and the factory in China was run under the regulations set out by the US....but the sentence structure was definitely not written by someone whose first language was English... I also complained about the writing on the packaging being so tiny were it stated US ingredients, assembled in China...I could hardly read it ! With so many animals dieing from renal disease after eating some of these treats, I feel I can never be too overly careful when purchasing products .

FDA Baffled and asking dog owners for answers??

qtla9111
Nomad
Oct 24, 2013
It's a Chinese plot to rid the U.S. of its pets. First it was the human side, and now the pet side.

Funny isn't it? Everyone shops at Walmart, everyone likes cheap, and yet they complain daily about the Chinese.

Yet the U.S. government has sold 1.7 trillion dollars of debt to the Chinese. Makes you wonder who the enemy is, right?

The Chinese, just like the U.S., we all make junk sometimes but we all make some good stuff too. Go to the tech forums and see how many people order LEDs from China. Why? The Chinese know how to do it.

Don't blame the Chinese for bad dog treats, blame the FDA, Congress, and big business for allowing junk into your country and you for buying it.

Label readers, puhleeeeze.
Crowe
Explorer
Oct 24, 2013
maybe that roadkill IS healthier than human food....LOL!!!

'Ceptin it might matter where the tire that made it road pizza is from!!! :B

There are so many variables that it's in our best interest to help the FDA in any way possible. Could be processing, could be main ingredients, could be a reaction that's caused by an enzyme in a dog's stomach interacting with what appears to be a benign ingredient. Scientists have recently discovered what they believe is the reason why Americans have such high rates of heart disease. We have a bacteria in our system that causes some sort of chemical reaction which creates the conditions for heart disease. The French have diets that are rich in fats and red meats, but don't have a high rate of heart disease. First belief was the fact they drink a lot of red wine, but then the discovery was made that they don't have the bacteria that Americans do. So many questions to answer that the FDA just can't do it on their own.
Deb_and_Ed_M
Explorer II
Oct 24, 2013
I was going to justify a Dorito chip as being healthier for my dogs than roadkill, but after reading about how meats coming from China might be labeled from the USA, maybe that roadkill IS healthier than human food....LOL!!!
Francesca_Knowl
Explorer
Oct 23, 2013
Stop worrying about cooked chicken nuggets from China, and START worrying about the lawsuit filed early this year by a big group of North American Meat folks. It challenges country-of-origin labeling requirements on ALL meat!

Link to story

Here quoting:

American Meat Institute wrote:
“Segregating and tracking animals according to the countries where production steps occurred and detailing that information on a label may be a bureaucrat’s paperwork fantasy, but the labels that result will serve only to confuse consumers, raise the prices they pay, and put some producers and meat and poultry companies out of business in the process. Everyone loses under this rule.”
resmas
Explorer
Oct 23, 2013
Bumpyroad wrote:
If you are scared of stuff from China getting into your dog food, I would be very wary of taking pharmaceuticals as they may also contain active drug components made there also.
bumpy

I used to LOVE shopping at the "oriental" markets and getting authentic Asian products for different recipes I prepare at home. Now, not so much... I am terrified of what I am REALLY buying. The freaky things the Chinese allow in their pet food has pretty much killed my desire to shop at those markets. I think the Chinese will package and sell anything as long as they can make a profit, no matter if it is poison or not. And since many of the items I used to purchase don't even have English labels, well....
Bumpyroad
Explorer
Oct 23, 2013
If you are scared of stuff from China getting into your dog food, I would be very wary of taking pharmaceuticals as they may also contain active drug components made there also.
bumpy
TugCE
Explorer
Oct 23, 2013
After reading this, I really am beginning to worry, first our pets and now us.

Chinese Processed Chicken to be Labeled as Made in America
Francesca_Knowl
Explorer
Oct 23, 2013
dturm wrote:
BCSnob wrote:
Doritos as a treat; why not? They are not to be used for daily nutrition (they are treats). Science has proven dogs can readily digest COOKED grains including corn.

Oh No, here we go.... :)

:B

Guess that about wraps up the discussion of the FDA/Chinese jerky treats...
BCSnob
Explorer
Oct 23, 2013
One of many examples of studies on this subject despite what the popular press and food expert opinion websites say.

Evaluation of Nutrient utilization in the Canine using the Ileal Cannulation Technique
JULIE A. WALKER DAVID L. HARMON, KATHY L. GROSSI ATVD
GEORGE F. COLLINGS
J. Nutr, 1994

Diets contained 67% extruded grain (corn, rice, oats or barley)
and 33% canned meat supplement on a dry matter basis. Starch digestion was complete (>98%) within the small intestine and was unaffected by carbohydrate source.

Starch = cooked grains = extruded grains
dturm
Moderator
Oct 23, 2013
BCSnob wrote:
Doritos as a treat; why not? They are not to be used for daily nutrition (they are treats). Science has proven dogs can readily digest COOKED grains including corn.

Oh No, here we go.... :)