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Deb_and_Ed_M
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Jul 19, 2013

"Fear Imprint Period"

In theory, puppy Ben is in this stage of his life (he's 12 weeks old). I have been handling him with kid gloves - making sure he meets wonderful and loving new people; and life is just peachy-keen in general. We made it through the 4th of July (I live on a lake, so the "fireworks period" is a week before and a week after) - with him pondering fireworks as "startling-but-interesting". Thunderstorms are viewed similarly. I want him to grow up like Jimmy, who's basically fearless. (Ike had been traumatized multiple times during this stage of his life before we got him; and the effects were lifelong)

Then last night. OMG. At 10:55 PM, just as the 3 dogs walked out the door to potty before bedtime; some ***hole about 5 doors down fired off what we call a "mortar cannon" - about a dozen aerial explosions with intense flashes that feel like they stop your heart. Jimmy was annoyed; Jack went berserk (protecting our house from the invasion) - and poor, poor Ben.... I didn't even see where he first ran to, but I could hear the frantic cries; then he came running to me as fast as possible, I scooped him up - and he was terrified beyond words. Out-of-his-mind scared. By that point, the fireworks were done, so I just held him and talked quietly to him to try to slow his poor pounding heart. Took him back in the house; then went out and yelled something really unladylike at the idiot with the fireworks...

Ed held him on his lap for a bit - but of course Ben still needed to go potty. So Ed and I and Jimmy (who was calm through the whole thing, went back out into the "terrifying" outside and Ben DID piddle about 2" off the safety of the deck...LOL!!

Today, Ben is fine, played in the same "terrifying" front yard, etc. But we have thunderstorms headed in for this afternoon and this evening. Should I go get some "calming" stuff before the storms, in anticipation of him being spooky about loud noises - or simply wait and see if there's even a problem? Dogs who are afraid of fireworks have a HARD time living on a lake, where people tend to shoot them off for any occasion....

9 Replies

  • campn4walleye wrote:


    Our cavalier is okay during thunder unless he's in his kennel...then he moans a lot and ends up sleeping with us. I can't help it; he's just too cute.

    :B


    Could be a hot new threadtopic by/for dogs only: "How I Trained My Owner!" ;)
  • Get a CD and play and play... while you play and play. Start low and work up to high. Pheremones also good, but volume control will make things a lot easier.
  • In my opinion, about thunderstorms is not to react, in any way. Play with him with his favorite toys. Put some peanut butter or liver spray in a kong and give that to keep him occupied. You have find something that will take his mind off the thunder.

    Our cavalier is okay during thunder unless he's in his kennel...then he moans a lot and ends up sleeping with us. I can't help it; he's just too cute.
  • Good news - Ben has survived 2 thunderstorms and some distant fireworks with the occasional startle, but no particular fear. He's still a bit wary as he walks out the door after dark, but willingly follows Jimmy who is bombproof. Thank God for good role models!!!
  • Thanks, Doug - I might give that a try. Haven't ever worried about that sort of stuff before, because I DO condition my dogs to anything I possibly can (and I don't fuss over them when something startles them). But last night's assault was over-the-top. Scared the daylights out of me, too - until I realized what it was; so I didn't exactly muster my "by golly, look at those fireworks" response that I should have, as a benefit for Ben.
  • Always take my pups out and expose them to fireworks, gunfire, thunderstorms, motorcycles, etc. Take toys and make it play time. The old dog tells the pup, 'It's alright.' I never soothe or make a fuss when a dog does any undesirable behavior, so as not to reinforce it.
  • Veterinary Partner wrote:
    The more you and your dog train together to make your interactions satisfying and strongly focused, the more powerful these interactions will be in conditioning your dog not to worry about the distant noises. Retrieving, tossing a toy for the dog to catch, or (with the right dog and handler) tug-of-war are the kinds of person-and-dog interactions that work as powerful antidotes to fear.


    Pheromones could be useful at this stage, before it becomes a permanent imprinted behavior.
  • I agree with Francesca. Just go about your business. If he runs to you, afraid, give him a pat on the head and tell him its all good, and go on. They feed off of you.

    In my opinion, for whatever it is or isn't worth.... I have always believed in exposing them to as much as possible when they are young. Getting them used to the sounds of the hair dryer and clippers, toe nail clipping -- as soon as their eyes are open. Normal household sounds. I've never let puppies leave before 14 weeks. I think that extra time with mom and littermates is important to their development.

    Also, taking him back out with the calm, no fears dog was an excellent idea.

    I've seen dogs who were raised in a barn when young - they are a mess. They are afraid of dishwashers, tv's, doorbells, vacuum cleaners..... it's better they get used to noise and situations when they are young. Makes for well adjusted adults.
  • In my opinion, the most important imprinted info is what a dog receives from the owner, especially as regards reactions to unexpected events. The more we sympathize/soothe, the more we teach that the event itself is something to be remembered and feared.

    If we, their Gods, are so concerned, who are they to question?

    I think the best thing you can do for your pup is...nothing. Good to be aware that the thunderstorms are coming, because you've time to prepare YOURSELF not to react to the thunder/noise in any way. He may run and hide, so make sure he's in a place where that's possible without him getting in any trouble, preferably where he's still with you and observing your reactions. Then just go about your business as if it's normal, because in your environment that's what it is.