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Deb_and_Ed_M
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Oct 31, 2019

Martingale Collar Danger

I've always liked martingale collars - they can snug up enough that a dog can't slip out; but when adjusted properly, they can't truly choke the dog.

However - we just had a scary situation: Augie the Aussie puppy (a boisterous 12 week old) managed to get his lower jaw through the tightening loop on Ben's martingale collar as they wrestled, then panicked and flipped himself on his back, effectively putting a tourniquet on his jaw and making Ben's collar tighten to the point it couldn't be removed. BOTH dogs were shrieking, Ed grabbed Augie to stop his struggling; and once I saw that there was no resolution, I grabbed the kitchen shears and cut the collar off Ben. Once loose, we untangled it from Augie's jaw - it shattered a puppy tooth and was covered in blood....

Maybe this will stop the "I'm going to kill you" dog games (Augie, for the moment, is now convinced that Ben is "mean") - but until Augie settles down a bit, I'm going to put a regular collar on Ben.

Just passing this along so it doesn't happen to another dog as they play with a buddy.

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  • toedtoes's avatar
    toedtoes
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    Nov 30, 2019
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    dturm wrote:
    wowens79 wrote:
    Our dog I guess was resting her head on some wooden patio furniture, and her dog tag went between the slats, and then turned and would not come out and was stuck.


    We had a rule in our hospital that all collars had to be removed before the animals were put in cages for that exact reason.

    Sad, but we would see animals hung (hanged ??) by their collars. Fortunately it was infrequent.

    Doug, DVM


    That's something I always look for at a boarding kennel - do they remove the collars. If not, then I find another kennel.
  • toedtoes's avatar
    toedtoes
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    Nov 30, 2019
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    You might try a harness for them while at home. One that doesn't loop around the neck. At least until Sasha gets microchipped.
  • colliehauler's avatar
    colliehauler
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    Nov 29, 2019
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    Well it happened to Sawyer 1 year and Sasha 4 months tonight. Sasha's collar was loose enough Sawyer got his bottom two K-9's under the collar and could not get them out. Scared the Collies and me. I would go without collars but if Sasha got out without identification could be bad as well. Vet wanted to wait until being spayed to insert microchip because of size of needle.

    Both Collies are fine but playtime is over for today.
  • dturm's avatar
    dturm
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    Oct 31, 2019
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    wowens79 wrote:
    Our dog I guess was resting her head on some wooden patio furniture, and her dog tag went between the slats, and then turned and would not come out and was stuck.


    We had a rule in our hospital that all collars had to be removed before the animals were put in cages for that exact reason.

    Sad, but we would see animals hung (hanged ??) by their collars. Fortunately it was infrequent.

    Doug, DVM
  • bob213's avatar
    bob213
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    Oct 31, 2019
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    I'm glad your dogs are ok! The martingale collars are far better than a choker collar but they are a training collar. They should not be left on at all times. When I put on my dogs martingale style collar he knows that play time is over and I'm in charge. When it's off...it's playtime.
  • wowens79's avatar
    wowens79
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    Oct 31, 2019
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    Our dog I guess was resting her head on some wooden patio furniture, and her dog tag went between the slats, and then turned and would not come out and was stuck.
  • ReneeG's avatar
    ReneeG
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    Oct 31, 2019
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    I'm so sorry to hear this. Good thing you were there. I didn't know what a Martingale collar was so I looked it up. Poor puppies, both of them and you! What a scare. For us, because we have a dog door, no collars are worn at home, or in our RV when we are on the road. In the past, they've gotten their collars caught on floor heating vents and on the inside of the dog door.
  • Deb_and_Ed_M's avatar
    Deb_and_Ed_M
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    Oct 31, 2019
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    Collars - yeeesh. I've seen dogs killed by collars that fit too well (hunting dog who was hung to death on a picket gate) or too loose (sheltie who was hit and killed after slipping out of its collar being dragged to the groomer) - and I've known the terror of a loose/scared/running dog with NO collar....

    I looked into breakaway collars, but they can separate when you are grabbing the dog to hold it back from whatever. Granted, Ben is only 20 lbs and ridiculously obedient (has a heel and recall the obedience folks would kill for...LOL!) - but there's always that ONE time you don't anticipate, and you need to be able to control your dog.... so I guess I'll stay with a conventional collar, and try to tone down the roughhousing (which actually isn't all that rough since both dogs are basically wimps)
  • colliehauler's avatar
    colliehauler
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    Oct 31, 2019
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    The Collies play all day. The 3 month old has found a way out of the fence one time. She did not go anywhere because her cohort could not get out. She stayed next to the fence by Sawyer. Neighbor spotted her and put her back in the fenced yard. I hope in the next month her size will prevent any possibility of this reoccurring. I went around the fence and blocked any possible escape route I could find.

    Most of the time when I go somewhere they go with me in the truck. A quick run to the store was the exception. I don't crate they have a dog door where they can go in and out of the house when they wish. They know when they need to potty not I.

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However - we just had a scary situation: Augie the Aussie puppy (a boisterous 12 week old) managed to get his lower jaw through the tightening loop on Ben's martingale collar as they wrestled, then panicked and flipped himself on his back, effectively putting a tourniquet on his jaw and making Ben's collar tighten to the point it couldn't be removed. BOTH dogs were shrieking, Ed grabbed Augie to stop his struggling; and once I saw that there was no resolution, I grabbed the kitchen shears and cut the collar off Ben. Once loose, we untangled it from Augie's jaw - it shattered a puppy tooth and was covered in blood....

Maybe this will stop the \"I'm going to kill you\" dog games (Augie, for the moment, is now convinced that Ben is \"mean\") - but until Augie settles down a bit, I'm going to put a regular collar on Ben.

Just passing this along so it doesn't happen to another dog as they play with a buddy.","body@stringLength":"1097","rawBody":"I've always liked martingale collars - they can snug up enough that a dog can't slip out; but when adjusted properly, they can't truly choke the dog.

However - we just had a scary situation: Augie the Aussie puppy (a boisterous 12 week old) managed to get his lower jaw through the tightening loop on Ben's martingale collar as they wrestled, then panicked and flipped himself on his back, effectively putting a tourniquet on his jaw and making Ben's collar tighten to the point it couldn't be removed. BOTH dogs were shrieking, Ed grabbed Augie to stop his struggling; and once I saw that there was no resolution, I grabbed the kitchen shears and cut the collar off Ben. Once loose, we untangled it from Augie's jaw - it shattered a puppy tooth and was covered in blood....

Maybe this will stop the \"I'm going to kill you\" dog games (Augie, for the moment, is now convinced that Ben is \"mean\") - but until Augie settles down a bit, I'm going to put a regular collar on Ben.

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dturm wrote:
wowens79 wrote:
Our dog I guess was resting her head on some wooden patio furniture, and her dog tag went between the slats, and then turned and would not come out and was stuck.


We had a rule in our hospital that all collars had to be removed before the animals were put in cages for that exact reason.

Sad, but we would see animals hung (hanged ??) by their collars. Fortunately it was infrequent.

Doug, DVM


That's something I always look for at a boarding kennel - do they remove the collars. If not, then I find another kennel.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-11-29T16:33:12.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-11-29T16:33:12.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":408},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVingWithPets/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVingWithPetsforum-board/message:3282452/message:3282467","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"650","rawBody":"
dturm wrote:
wowens79 wrote:
Our dog I guess was resting her head on some wooden patio furniture, and her dog tag went between the slats, and then turned and would not come out and was stuck.


We had a rule in our hospital that all collars had to be removed before the animals were put in cages for that exact reason.

Sad, but we would see animals hung (hanged ??) by their collars. Fortunately it was infrequent.

Doug, DVM


That's something I always look for at a boarding kennel - do they remove the collars. 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wowens79 wrote:
Our dog I guess was resting her head on some wooden patio furniture, and her dog tag went between the slats, and then turned and would not come out and was stuck.


We had a rule in our hospital that all collars had to be removed before the animals were put in cages for that exact reason.

Sad, but we would see animals hung (hanged ??) by their collars. Fortunately it was infrequent.

Doug, DVM","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-10-31T16:24:36.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-10-31T16:24:36.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":404},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVingWithPets/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVingWithPetsforum-board/message:3282452/message:3282464","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"473","rawBody":"
wowens79 wrote:
Our dog I guess was resting her head on some wooden patio furniture, and her dog tag went between the slats, and then turned and would not come out and was stuck.


We had a rule in our hospital that all collars had to be removed before the animals were put in cages for that exact reason.

Sad, but we would see animals hung (hanged ??) by their collars. Fortunately it was infrequent.

Doug, 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The martingale collars are far better than a choker collar but they are a training collar. They should not be left on at all times. When I put on my dogs martingale style collar he knows that play time is over and I'm in charge. 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The martingale collars are far better than a choker collar but they are a training collar. They should not be left on at all times. When I put on my dogs martingale style collar he knows that play time is over and I'm in charge. 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Good thing you were there. I didn't know what a Martingale collar was so I looked it up. Poor puppies, both of them and you! What a scare. For us, because we have a dog door, no collars are worn at home, or in our RV when we are on the road. 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Good thing you were there. I didn't know what a Martingale collar was so I looked it up. Poor puppies, both of them and you! What a scare. For us, because we have a dog door, no collars are worn at home, or in our RV when we are on the road. 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I've seen dogs killed by collars that fit too well (hunting dog who was hung to death on a picket gate) or too loose (sheltie who was hit and killed after slipping out of its collar being dragged to the groomer) - and I've known the terror of a loose/scared/running dog with NO collar....

I looked into breakaway collars, but they can separate when you are grabbing the dog to hold it back from whatever. Granted, Ben is only 20 lbs and ridiculously obedient (has a heel and recall the obedience folks would kill for...LOL!) - but there's always that ONE time you don't anticipate, and you need to be able to control your dog.... so I guess I'll stay with a conventional collar, and try to tone down the roughhousing (which actually isn't all that rough since both dogs are basically wimps)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-10-31T06:38:50.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-10-31T06:38:50.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":407},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVingWithPets/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVingWithPetsforum-board/message:3282452/message:3282459","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"821","rawBody":"Collars - yeeesh. I've seen dogs killed by collars that fit too well (hunting dog who was hung to death on a picket gate) or too loose (sheltie who was hit and killed after slipping out of its collar being dragged to the groomer) - and I've known the terror of a loose/scared/running dog with NO collar....

I looked into breakaway collars, but they can separate when you are grabbing the dog to hold it back from whatever. Granted, Ben is only 20 lbs and ridiculously obedient (has a heel and recall the obedience folks would kill for...LOL!) - but there's always that ONE time you don't anticipate, and you need to be able to control your dog.... so I guess I'll stay with a conventional collar, and try to tone down the roughhousing (which actually isn't all that rough since both dogs are basically wimps)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3282459_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3282458":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3282458","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3282458":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:175156"},"id":"message:3282458","revisionNum":1,"uid":3282458,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVingWithPetsforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3282452"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3282452"},"subject":"Re: Martingale Collar Danger","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3282458"},"body":"The Collies play all day. The 3 month old has found a way out of the fence one time. She did not go anywhere because her cohort could not get out. She stayed next to the fence by Sawyer. Neighbor spotted her and put her back in the fenced yard. I hope in the next month her size will prevent any possibility of this reoccurring. I went around the fence and blocked any possible escape route I could find.

Most of the time when I go somewhere they go with me in the truck. A quick run to the store was the exception. I don't crate they have a dog door where they can go in and out of the house when they wish. They know when they need to potty not I.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-10-31T05:56:11.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-10-31T05:56:11.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":407},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVingWithPets/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVingWithPetsforum-board/message:3282452/message:3282458","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"663","rawBody":"The Collies play all day. The 3 month old has found a way out of the fence one time. She did not go anywhere because her cohort could not get out. She stayed next to the fence by Sawyer. Neighbor spotted her and put her back in the fenced yard. I hope in the next month her size will prevent any possibility of this reoccurring. I went around the fence and blocked any possible escape route I could find.

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